Talk: Killik/Legends

Accuracy?

Killik states: "They also claimed to have created Centerpoint Station, as well as witnessed the creation of the Maw."

Celestial states: "The Celestials where . . . whom the Killiks claimed had built the Maw and Centerpoint Station."

So, which is correct? either the Killiks claim the construction of Centerpoint, or they claim that the Celestial built it. --beeurd 21:58, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

• In The Joiner King, the Killiks make both statements, which is why fan consensus seems to be that the Killiks absorbed those who did make Centerpoint, and thus began to think that they themselves had made it.Kuralyov 22:45, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
  • And why is the disputed warning up? Everything is the way it should be. That's what we know about the Killiks. And as for the Centerpoint Station thing, a Celestial that aided in the construction most likely joined the collective mind of the Killiks. There's your answer. Now, let's get rid of that dispute warning crap. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 23:49, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
    • The two articles seemed to contradict eachother, and I was simply drawing attention to it in the hope that someone who knew more about it could correct or explain it. --beeurd 04:34, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
• It has been removed. -- SFH 23:52, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Image

Is there an image of a Killik? This article needs one.

Departure from Alderaan

Alright, we have a timeline problem. The article says the Killiks left Alderaan and Alsakan in 20,000 BBY. Yet older literature clearly etabishes that Alderaan was colonized by Humans in 27,500 BBY. Han actually did tried to ask Raynar (or UnuThul, whichever personality is out at the time) if a Human Generation was the same as a Killik generation, but never got an answer. Just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention. -- SFH 03:40, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Sith Lord?

What's this here about a Killik from Alsakan becoming a Sith Lord? My fanon sense is tingling... SFH 21:25, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

• Removed until source is found. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 22:55, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)
• I thought that seemed a little dubious, also. But given my last attempt at pointing out an error in this article... lol --beeurd 16:45, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Image error

I'm not too good at HTML code, so if anyone could add the File:k2killik.jpg|Killik Image that I uploaded to the Killik article. And, if anyone here knows how, can you tell me on my talk page? Thanks. 209.26.220.227 21:16, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)

• Well, I'm not much of an expert either, but I uploaded two images so far. And as for getting someone else to upload the image you have, could you possibly provide the source where you found it? Admiral J. Nebulax 21:18, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Whoops, wasn't logged in. My mistake. The Killik image is off of the cover of The Unseen Queen. Θ 02:24, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC)

• I'll try to find it. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:37, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Killiks removed from Alderaan by The Celestials

In The Swarm War, Luke states that the Killiks were removed from Alderaan by The Celestials after the Killiks consumed Alderaan and prepared to move on to another populated world on Page 344. I'm changing that bit like I did on The Celestials page.

Course this still doesn't solve who built Centerpoint Station, because the conversation that Luke and Pelleaon had about it in TSW doesn't provide any conclusive proof.

• Nonetheless, the Killiks could have still built Centerpoint Station. Admiral J. Nebulax 23:48, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)

I'm not saying they didn't, but Luke makes it seem unlikely that the Killiks ever left the Alderaan System. I think either the killiks deceived themselves into thinking they built it or The Celestials made the Killiks build it for them and then kicked them into the Unknown Regions. But there's no proof for it.

• One of the actual builders of Centerpoint Station most likely became a Joiner, and this memory was probably absorbed with him. Admiral J. Nebulax 23:54, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Actually after reading TJK again, the Chiss mention having used the Killiks initially as construction workers for their ships, I think the Celestials likely did the same. But I don't think a Celestial ever 'joined' the Killiks.

• One or two probably did. Many other members of other species have become Joiners, so prorbably some Celestials did. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:05, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)

• • My theory is that the Killiks did actually build Centerpoint and the Maw, but were wiped out in a war with the Fizzians.
• No theories. Only facts. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:16, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah, that's why I put none of it up on the main page, only on the Discussion one. People were talking about it here. The only thing I did to the main page was change the "The Celestials removed the Killik" sentence to "what happened next is shrouded in the mists of time, but one theory posited by Luke skywalker is that . . . "--The Erl of the Fizzian Empire
    • Well, just don't put theories here. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:13, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
      • I meant to do nothing more than what you did above when you stated "One of the actual builders of Centerpoint Station most likely became a Joiner, and this memory was probably absorbed with him." I apologize if I made it seem I was using the encyclopedia to push a fanon idea.
        • Oh. I apologize, then. Admiral J. Nebulax 18:42, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)
          • Np. Probably my fault. I'm still feeling my way.
            • Okay, let's not post anymore of this stuff here. Admiral J. Nebulax 02:38, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Yuuzhan Vong War

did the Killik Colony spared from the Yuuzhan vong invasion? or the Vong just bypassed this part of the Unknown Region.

Lord Tader Feb 18,2005 22:12 (UTC)

• I think that the Vong's preoccupation with the New Republic/Galactic Alliance prevented them from devoting enough resources to the Unknown Regions. They had to rely on the far reaches destablization program to deal with the Ssi-Ruuk, and they just seemed to have developed a policy of border harrasment with regards to the Chiss. Still, I would like to know a little more about the Killiks involvement during the Yuuzhan Vong War. It would also be interesting to know if the joining process worked on the Yuuzhan Vong...and what effect it would have on the Killiks. -- SFH 00:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

• I see --Lord Tader 02:02, 19 Feb 19,2006 (UTC)

• Remember that the Vong invaded at the end of the Galaxy farthest from the Unknown Region and the Core was right in the way. They did just start to push into the Unknown Regions toward the end of the war but it doesn't seem like they got all that far into them. It is very possible that they just didn't run into the Killiks. --Kyp-Durron 03:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)Kyp-Durron

• • Actually, the invasion corridor is right besides the Unknown Regions. --Sauron18 03:31, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

• Ah you are right. But as they pushed inward they swung around the opposite side of the Core from the Unknown Regions. In affect putting the Core between them and the Killiks and focusing their strikes on eliminating the Core worlds. --Kyp-Durron 21:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)Kyp-Durron

Palindrome names seman emordnilap

Does anyone realize that the name "Killik" alng with all the Killik nests having palindromes as names? Is this suitable for mention? 66.142.252.20

...every Killik nest acted as if they were one individual. Each hive appears to have palindromic name. The Killiks were also peaceful in nature... I added that a while ago ;) YIIMM 21:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

And Utegetu Nebula. I had just read some of The Unseen Queen and noticed this, but you got here first. - Bub

• I noticed it too but what could it possibly mean? The books don't ever explain. Could it be referring to the Killiks habit of not really thinking straight? Luke got pretty frustrated with Raynar (oops) Unu's habit of going back and forth in his conversations and thoughts. --Kyp-Durron 03:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)Kyp-Durron

Behind the Scenes states: Every name of the various Killik nests is a palindrome, apart from the Castle Lands. Actually, "Castle Lands" is the name the Human colonists gave it. "Joiner King" clearly states that the Killik name of this nest is/was "Oroboro". Also, Raynar tells Han that "It was after we build Qolaraloq - you Others call it Centerpoint Station. The Celestial were anry -". So, should "Qolaraloq" be considered as a former nest as well? --Wild Whiphid 09:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

• It makes one wonder doesn't it? -- Riffsyphon1024 09:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

i know i'm late to the party, but i'd just like to suggest that palindromic names might indicate a MORE orderly way of thinking. Leia Organa's name, or Qui-Gon Jinn's, or the name of the Human species--the alphanumeric characters are in nearly as random an order as the alphanumeric characters in C-3PO or T-65. But with Killik names, you know where things begin and where they end by the symmetry. i also want to mention the Ouroboros and its beginning-and-end relationship with itself (you can look it up on Wikipedia for more information), and note that Star Wars fiction features a prominent Human family called the Solos. (Han? Nah. Hannah? Anna? Otto? Bob? Liston Notsil?) 70.17.204.145 09:20, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Source?

For this?

"Though the species as a whole was not Force-sensitive, certain types of Killik could be bred to use the Force in small ways."

To the best of my knowledge, that's never mentioned in the Dark-Nest series--Erl 23:49, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Comparison to other fictional insect races?

Is it just me, or are the Killiks like the Zerg from Starcraft or the Tyranids from Warhammer 40K?

To my mind, they're much less malignant than either. 80.5.144.82 19:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

They seem awfully similar to buggers from Orson Scott Card's Ender Quartet, in my opinion.

Killik Sith Lord - Canonicity

That would be Gamer 9, the source.

Jilst Bindalin This guy will help.

True first appearance

There is no way the first appearance is in The Dark Nest series. I remember seeing these things in SWG a long time ago. --UVnet 03:45, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

• Oh Really? If that's the case then a screencap would be absolutley great =) --Sauron18 11:01 8 June 2006

I really don't see how The New Jedi Order: The Unifying Force could be their first mention, as noted in the "appearances" section, as Tatooine Ghost was published 8 months prior, and TUF relates some of the events of that book.

Old discussion, but I think UVnet was confusing the Killiks with the Klikniks when he mentioned them being in SWG. RogueJedi86 20:02, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

???

How can you put an era icon to a specie ??????Darth Nospher 22:57, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

• Removed. You could have done that yourself. Cull Tremayne 22:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I only wanted to be sure !

Darth Nospher 21:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Zerg

I think the Killiks may have been based on the Zerg from StarCraft. Both races are insectoids, can take outside beings into their hives, and use different kinds of Zerg/Killiks as weapons. It's also possible that it's a coincidence and that they were both based on the Borg, but I find that less likely. Bub^Talk 00:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Eyes

In this image it looks like they have human eyes. (with pupils) But in the book it describes their eyes as "bulbous" and "glassy" is that just a mistake by the artist? JediNTT307 20:30, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

• Looks more like a case of Tommy Lee Edwards getting a little friendly with artistic freedom. If it says they have glassy eyes in the book, I would treat that as canonical over artwork. -- Riffsyphon1024 09:42, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Seen on Alderaan in Star Wars: the Old Republic

The Bounty Hunter Character Progression video shows what appear to be Killik on Alderaan about 53 seconds into it. http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/bounty-hunter-character-progression#comments

Darth Paramecium 23:03, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

• It does look exactly like them, I pray that it is not going to be. Continuity has become a second thought recently after an artists "hey wouldn't it be cool if we did this, even though its established its not like this" so it probably will be.(66.20.170.252 16:49, August 16, 2011 (UTC))

• • They're definitely Killiks. We don't know their lore on Alderaan yet, but maybe it's just a few isolated colonies who stayed behind. BioWare's paying attention to lore though. All the Killik Hives on Alderaan in TOR have palindromic names(Aesea, Ruur, Soros, Ukunuku, Oroboro). Source(okay since the NDA is lifted) RogueJedi86 06:04, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

The Old Republic

We got a big problem guys. According to all previous sources the Killiks were gone when Humans came to Alderaan. And yet now we have an army of them in The Old Republic and I assure you. There are humans as well.

Raymasho

i'm told that the games often take liberties with what is and isn't canon (or should i say, ION cannon) in the interests of making the game more entertaining. For example, the characters in the LEGO Star Wars games look REALLY different from the way i remember them looking in the movies!  ;-) Alternatively, when does The Old Republic take place? Maybe Killiks existed at the same time as Humans, but so long ago that the later generations of Humans forgot they ever existed at the same time at all? 70.17.204.145 09:26, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

There is no problem. I'm playing The Old Republic as a Jedi Knight and the Codex entry for Killiks explains that a few Killiks had remained behind on Alderaan and lived in hibernation deep underground. It also reaffirms that when Alderaan was colonised the Killiks were gone. Here's a link to a direct copy of the codex entry. http://www.torhead.com/codex/4sexRpw/killik Elephanto

Memory

This is more of a comment than question, but one of my friends has a memory like the Killiks. I can say "Remember that time when we..." and then make up a totally unrealistic fictional event, and he'll swear that it happened.

It's kind of funny. Caeserguy 22:09, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

TOR Image Request

If anyone can get a picture of Killiks from TOR for the article it would be greatly appreciated. Want a picture for the "The Old Republic" section to show in-game Killik adults, not the larvae. Darth Batrus 12:50, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Seems like KIlliks are canon again- in this canon short story https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/squadrons/news/the-light-you-bring-short-story?utm_campaign=swsq_hd_ww_ic_ic_twt_tlyb-10082020-tw theres this quote “Well, there’s been no stirrings from Imperial Intelligence. Imperial Logistics, on the other hand, is buzzing like a Killik nest.” Im afraid im new to wikia editing so i dont exactly know how to properly make a canon page- so this is just notifying anyone who has the proper skills.