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Spoilers

The fact that he joined Revan is not a spoiler. That would be like calling the year of death in Obi-Wan Kenobi's blurb a spoiler. --Imperialles 17:50, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

  • It's a spoiler that the main character is Revan, who Jolee joins. (My edit by the way) --Fade 17:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Its still a spoiler, the warning should be put back in. Ynos 14:49, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image

That image is from a pre-release version. Jolee looks a bit different in the final game, and his lightsaber is green anyway. Should I replace it? - Sikon 02:53, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Jolee has two lightsabers, a blue one and a green one (at least in my version of KOTOR). Kuralyov 01:12, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Well, of course you can equip him with whatever lightsaber you want, but when you first encounter Jolee and when he joins your party, he only holds a green lightsaber. - Sikon 05:05, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Really? I could've sworn he came with both, since I usually give them same-colored sabers...Oh well.Kuralyov 05:10, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I second that. I just met Jolee in KOTOR only recently so i am pretty sure he had a single green lightsaber. 62.74.3.220 19:15, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
    • I don't want to bring this into an edit war (which is why I posted it here) but which type of images take authority for the main image? In-game/movie shots or promo shots? Redemption 15:24, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Shouldn't in game shots? I mean, promo is "Promotion." Since he has a Green lightsaber the first time you see him, we should have a picture of him with a green lightsaber. Darthan the destroyer 20:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I swapped the two images to be in line with the rest of the KOTOR crew, having the in-game face shot be the main image. Revan211 00:35, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Early years

I fail to understand his early life from this article. When exactly he became a Padawan? Before being a smuggler, or later? and when was he married? if he was relatively old, and married while being a padawan, these exceptions should be mentioned clearly. Moff Rebus 01:58, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

  • Jolee became a padawan at a very young age, like most had. He became a smugglar while he was a padawan, he married while he was a padawan as well. he asked the Council to be allowed to train her but they refused because he was a padawan at the time. Hope this help, if not message me on my talk page and i'll give you a more detailed description. Jasca Ducato 18:05, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • Since when did Jolee become a Knight? I thought he made it perfectly clear that he had never risen above the Padawan rank. - Sikon [Talk] 04:56, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)
      • Where does it say that Jolee became a Jedi Knight? I don't see it. It's not there. - Michaeldsuarez 01:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Korun?

That he was coloured does not mean he was a Korun. - TopAce 10:55, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

  • However it's a distinct possibility. I think his species should be changed to either Korun or Unknown (Possibily Human or Korun). Jasca Ducato 09:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
  • The Korun were descended from Jedi that had crash landed on Haruun Kal during the Great Sith War, which Jolee fought in. Therefore, he is not a Korun. -- SFH 15:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm changing it to say that calling him Korun is a "mistake" instead of "fanon." However lame a lot of fanon ideas may be the word "fanon" is not itself a synonym for "mistake" or "error." (lol) Vruki Salet 21:43, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

  • I changed this "mistake" to "fallacy", I think it sounds better. Feel free to revert it if you don't think so. - TopAce 13:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Skilled lightsaber wielder?

From what I saw from him in the game, he wasn't. He defeated those four katarns easily in the game, because it is the way LucasArts introduced him. In the game (which should be more "canon" than a single line of animated movements) he is barely able to defeat one katarn without using the Force. I would remove this line. - TopAce 10:36, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

  • This was a somewhat old comment, but no one seems to disagree with you, so I went ahead and edited the line. -BaronGrackle 08:34, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
  • An animated sequence is more reliable than technicalities involving in-game mechanics. However, the line is not necessary anyway. --68.224.247.53 00:32, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Pulling a Bindo

When talking to Handmaiden in KOTOR 2 she mentions Jedi leaving the order for love and one of the dialogue options the player has refers to 'Pulling a Bindo". Is this worthy of mention? 11:53 8 March 2006.

I think not since apparently he didn't leave for love and it must be a mistake. When he was married the jedi didn't yet forbid marriage. The article already says he left because he lost faith in the Council's wisdom because of the way they handled his training his wife without permission and her fall to the dark side, and I guess his failure to stop her when he could have, not because of a disagreement with their post-sith-war marriage ban.Vruki Salet 21:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

What I was asking was should we mention this in the article? 4:40 12 May 2006.

He didn't leave the order for love. He left the order because he was fed up with the Jedi Council. Darthan the destroyer 21:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Age

I think it's possible that Jolee is at an age beyond the normal human's lifespan, because when he's talking to Revan about Andor Vex, he says that the death of Kraat "changed the political course of the entire sector for Bold textcenturies to come.

  • He's a human, so he cannot be beyond the age of a human's lifespan. He may have exaggerated about it, though. Saying that some action changes a political situation for centuries is bold. - TopAce 13:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Rimward missions or Rimward Missions?

They are mentioned twice in the article, one has missions capitalized the other doesn't. Which is the way KotOR put it? That'll be capitalization. - TopAce 13:18, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

What are the Rimward Missions? —Unsigned comment by Marshmallow2166 (talk • contribs)

So how does Jolee know that he's Revan?

  • Yeah, what the header says - lalala_la
    • He just does. Maybe he saw Revan with the Star Map in the first place and made the connection when the amnesia Revan used it. Who knows? Does it matter? --RedemptionTalk Uglykotoricon 00:22, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
      • I dunno, just seems like the fact that he was Revan seemed like a well-kept secret, just like Darth Vader's true identity was, so it's kinda odd that this Jedi who's been out of it for so long would know. - lalala_la
        • Bindo had met Revan as a Jedi. I'd assume most Jedi know what Revan and Malak look like, as Jedi or Sith. QuentinGeorge 21:01, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
          • Jolee's stuck on Kashyyyk for twenty years, before then it is possible Revan wasn't even around.--Jinger 02:50, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Through the Force. During his exile on Dagobah, Yoda was able to watch over Luke for a long time before they even met, it is possible in the same way that Jolee could stay in touch with galactic events and perceive Revan's presence in the Force from the Shadowland of Kashyyyk.--Jinger 02:50, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

But you're forgetting that he was stuck on Kashyyyk for a long time. I mean, do you think he was just saving wookies the whole time? NO. He was probably there when the two walked into the force field thing, and saw thier faces. Darthan the destroyer 21:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

  • He may have seen Malak's face, but we are shown Revan with full helmet and cape during their search for the Star Maps, more than his appearance I think he recognized his presence in the Force.--Jinger 23:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I agree, Jolee even mentioned he saw a great destiny swirl around Revan, much like he saw around Andor Vex. -TheLostJedi 21:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

we should mention this

we should have a part in the personality paragraph, where it shows Jolee's kinsd act of secreatly smuggling food to the ukatis system, do you get me?

Master Nikolce 03:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I'd get you if you learned how to spell. Darthan the destroyer 21:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Wow, what a jerk. Anyways, yeah I don't see why not. 72.74.226.244 05:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Heh, he mispelled one word, and in case you didn't know, the s is next to the d. I know it's off-topic, I just can't stand jerks that nitpick over small mistakes. And I'm sure you were able to read that. CC 0019 04:49, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

  • 1: He misspelled two words. 2: This discussion was over five months ago. 3: If you're opposed to any sort of nitpicking, then you're in the wrong fandom. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 06:08, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Katarr

About Jolee's speculated death on Katarr, there is something in the sequel of the game indicating he remained out of Jedi business and kept wandering the galaxy following the events of Lehon:

"Jolee Bindo remained outside of the Jedi Order in his pursuit of knowledge. These powerful, yet unassuming robes were believed to have been owned by him, though his current whereabouts is unknown."
―Item Description of Jolee's Robe, KotOR II

--Jinger 03:18, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

But he is not a Jedi. Wouldn't the Sith just ignore Grey Jedi like Jolee? I mean, there are plenty of Grey Jedi. Why waste the resources killing the nuetral force sensitives? -Unsigned Comment

  • That's the point Jinger trying to make. ;) -TheLostJedi 21:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

homeworld

Jolee's homeworld is unknown! It's not Kashyyyk! Kashyyyk is not his homeworld, it's a place he stayed at! Etan O'Hara 21:26, 21 February 2009

Appearance in KOTOR "Vindication" Storyline?

At the end of the Vindication TPB is that Jolee featured during Lucien's monolouge? I haven't read any Kotor comics that aren't yet in TPB form and can't confirm it. —Unsigned comment by 199.46.240.168 (talk • contribs)