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This is non-canon, this is just a sandtrooper with a rocket launcher (notice the orange pauldron denoting a sandtrooper squad leader and the food and water pack on his back). The computer game Star Wars Battlefront and Star Wars Battlefront 2 has made many mistakes like this, including calling a Galactic Marine a Clone Commander and a Airborne Clone Trooper a Clone Sniper. —Unsigned comment by 71.75.4.159 (talk • contribs)

If it's canon, where is it in the databanks? In any book? anywhere else besides SWBF and SWBF2 which is completely false when it comes to the military units of different factions? Prove it canon, and i'll back down. —Unsigned comment by 71.75.4.159 (talk • contribs)

Uhhhh.. you're joking right? those games are far from canon when it comes to the units of factions. Can someone please find a clear and canon answer to this —Unsigned comment by 71.75.4.159 (talk • contribs)

  • No, the only thing in those games that is not canon is the gameplay. Everything else, including the Imperial heavy weapons specialist, is canon. There's nothing you can do to change that. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 00:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

so a clone airborne trooper is a "clone sniper" and a clone galactic marine is a "clone commander" a security droid is a "droid sniper" a pilot droid is a "anti vehicle droid"? I'm not saying i can change anything, i'm asking someone to, and if it is canon, can you prove it? Not just say "it's canon". And i'll also add this unit has no source from any book or databank on the star wars website.

  • Something doesn't need a book or the Databank as a source to make it canon. Games are canon, and so is the Imperial heavy weapons specialist. Moreover, the existance of the Imperial heavy weapons specialist has not been contradicted by any source, as opposed to the four examples you gave in your last post. Just give it up already. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 22:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you just stated that some parts of that game is in fact... non-canon, so... which way are you going? Apparently i can just go make something up... and say it's canon, and no one can say anything because it *doesn't* have a source? That's kinda backwards isn't it? And finally, No i'm not going to "give up", because this isn't a arguement or a fight or something else you're trying to turn it into. When someone has some proof of this, then i'll let it be.

  • 1) Gameplay is an element in games that allows the player to change certain things (in the Battlefront games, it's the map or the class being played). Gameplay, which is non-canon, has nothing to do with the different types of troop classes that are playable in the games. 2) This has a source—Battlefront I and II. 3) You should give up because you are not going to accomplish anything by disputing canon. This whole discussion is pointless, and I advise you to end it. I have told you that the Imperial heavy weapons specialist is canon. You can either take the cold, hard, canon truth that I have given you and end this now, or you can reject it and continue to pointlessly argue against something that cannot be changed. The ball's in your court now. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 23:38, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

"The ball is in my court now"? This isn't an arguement unless you turn it into one, and only a child would begin some kind of arguement over the internet. This isn't any arguement period, i just want someone to show some proof of this military unit. Obviously you're getting frustrated because the facts i have brought up have good points, and you have no facts... I'd advise you to calm down, it seems you get into alot of arguements on wookieepedia.

  • Anon, you're the one who started this argument when you couldn't accept the fact that the Imperial heavy weapons specialist is canon. You have no good points, and I have the facts here. Your inability to accept this has shown that you, not me, are acting like a child. In addition, you've wasted enough of both our time. You want to keep this up, be my guest, but canon is not going to change for you just because you don't like it. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 22:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Exactly, i won't just back down because someone says "oh it's canon because i said so" and you don't like that, so you started the arguement, you saved yourself some time there huh? Once again, no one has shown any proof of this being canon, when the proof is shown and is reasonable i will accept the fact that it is canon. That hasn't been done yet. You haven't shown one fact, yet i have done my research and brought it to the table, that is what you *don't* like. I started no arguement, you turned it into something it's not, just scroll up and read the conversation. The only one acting like a child here is you, creating something into an arguement that isn't a big deal. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean you have to start getting aggressive, Grow Up.

  • I'm of two minds on this one - I can't remember where I heard it, but I'm sure that someone, somewhere stated that the only ting canon about the Battlefront games was the story, and that's it. However, it seems that the units may be canon as well though I'm not sure what source does state that. So basically we're stuck between a rock an a hard place. *sigh*--Goodwood 04:59, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Anon, you're the one who needs to grow up. I tell you that this is canon, yet you refuse it just because you don't want it to be canon. If you didn't want an argument, you shouldn't have started this pointless discussion. This whole thing is your fault. Don't push it all on me. If you're unhappy with canon, you'll have to live with it. My advice to you: Stop posting here and actually start contributing to Wookieepedia. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 14:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
  • IP 71.75.4.159, SWBF and SWBF2 are both established canon sources. Understood? There are lots of canon material that do not have their own specific articles in the databank. You want an example? Jedi Master Arca Jeth. Feel free to review his article and sources here, and then do a search on the databank. This debate was brought to the attention of the Administrators through IRC and I have chose to deal with it. If you can't accept that SWBF and SWBF2 are canon, then feel free to take your discussions to the many forums on the net (TFN, Stardestroyer.net, SWRPG Holonet, the Rancor Pit) which harbor these types of discussions. If this continues here, then it will be done in a constructive manner. If this continues to devolve into a larger series of personal attacks, on any party, then those responsible will be dealt with. Greyman(Paratus) 14:28, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I never said it had to be in the databanks, i said it isn't in the databanks, and i also said it didn't have any other sources besides SWBF and SWBF2. I'm trying to do it in a constructive manner but others are just acting like their word is law, and it's not. Jack, if i want to have a discussion, i can, because it's a free nation, i should be able to do it without someone starting something. My advice to you: if you can't stop yourself from being arguementive, don't talk to people.—Unsigned comment by 71.75.4.159 (talk • contribs)

  • Jack took my warning and stopped with the discussion, you obviously, chose to disregard the warning I left. As I said before, if the discussion continues to devolve into something that is not beneficial, then the said party will be dealt with. For the time being, you've been blocked from editing for disregarding warnings, 71.75.4.159. Greyman(Paratus) 22:37, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Considering that Imperial shock trooper now duplicates the vast majority of this article, could we either merge this article into that one and delete it, or get someone to clarify that these two types of "shock trooper" are different and need separate articles? If this article remains there is no reason for Imperial shock trooper to duplicate it. User:Maximillian-Veers 11:00 13 April 2009