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Why is all of this in past tense? Suggesting Hoth doesnt exist anymore (well it didnt ever exist but you know what I mean)

Not a huge issue I just found it a bit strange.

It should be in present, unless destroyed (which it isn't). If I wasn't too tired, I'd fix it now, but I can't be bothered. --Fade 23:58, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

  • I thought past tense was the preferred tense for all in-universe articles? JSarek 00:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
    • I was under that impression too. --Beeurd 00:06, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
    • That was established in the discussion, yes. All IU articles are written in the past tense. --SparqMan 01:11, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Oh, I could have sworn it was established that planets would be in present tense unless destroyed...but I guess not. Ignore me, then. --Fade 12:46, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
      • I also thought that planet articles were to be present tense. – Aidje talk 23:20, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
        • That had been brought up early in the discussion, but I was under the impression we'd said to encourage an encyclopedic style, we would write all IU articles in the past tense.--SparqMan 23:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
          • Wikipedia writes countries and cities in present tense unless they no longer exist, so shouldn't planets be the same? --Fade 10:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
            • Well, technically this takes place A Long Time Ago. That could at least account for the discrepancy. - Toasty McGrath 18:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
              • Yes, everything in the Star Wars universe is considered history. If we say something in the present tense, it means we should be able to determine what the present moment is, something we simply cannot do. --Gurbiza 19:24, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible that GL took the name "Hoth" from the German general Hermann Hoth ? Quote: In June 1942 he took over from General Erich Höpner as commander of 4.Panzer-Armee, which fought along the Bryansk Front and in support of the siege of Stalingrad-after the Russian Operation Uranus and the creation of the Kessel, (in the winter) Hoth's panzer group was the releif attempt to puncture Solviet defenses and create a corridor out of the Kessel for Palus' Sixth Army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Hoth

--Denis81 09:37, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Tundra vs. Ice Sheet

Small point: the article states that the entire surface of Hoth is covered in water (mostly frozen), then later describes the surface as frozen tundra. These two statements are incompatible, as tundra requires frozen landmass (soil, rocks, etc) not an ice sheet. Also, the landscape shots of Wedge flying above the surface of Hoth (TESB) show snow covered mountains with large rocky abuttments, which would not be present if the entire surface of Hoth was a frozen ocean.

-Barruk

  • Made some minor corrections on the description of Hoth to more accurately reflect what the Databank entry states. Changed the word "tundra" to "surface" in the second paragraph.Barruk 19:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Temperature

I'm not sure if this makes sense but the article reads that the average temp. (-61 Celsius) is lower than the nighttime low (-60 C). -- Riffsyphon1024 20:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Why is this planet locked?

there are some missing peices from the infobox it's the sixth planwet in the system Length of Day (in standard hours): 23 Length of Year (in local days): 549

Skel ???

Why skel is listed as language when is a specie?Darth Nospher 20:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Moons

Do the moons have names?--Loneshark1138(comlink)15:08, December 11,2009 (UTC)

Clue To Name

I've discovered that There was A German General Named Hermann Hoth who fought in the great battle of Stalingrad and was a expert of Winter warfare Sincerely WWII Crusader. —Unsigned comment by 24.17.249.56 (talk • contribs)

  • So? Unless there is a source that states that he was the inspiration for the name of the planet, its irrelevant to this article. OLIOSTER (talk) 03:44, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

I don't have any evidence supporting him being the inspiration but A German General who was a Expert in Winter warfare and he looks suspiciously like Grand Moff Tarkin.so 1 Nazi Germany was a great inspiration for the Empire.2 I'm pretty sure Hoth is a Cold Planet.So here's the Link

  • I'm sorry, but like I said before, unless you can find an official source that explicitly states that he was an inspiration for the planet's name, its nothing more than speculation and does not belong in a Wookieepedia article. You might also want to look at the very top of this page as this has been suggested before. OLIOSTER (talk) 05:28, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

I'm just saying even if we don't have Evidence that Lucas said he was inspired I still think it should at least be put in as a possibility because there are too many Similarities and I just noticed the previous discussion I thought it was just a bunch of people talking about past and present tense WWII Crusader

Wasn't there a General Hoth who led the Army of Light in-universe? Do we know if the planet was named for him from an in-universe perspective? 24.178.232.100 02:26, June 23, 2014 (UTC)

  • We can assume it was not. The planet Hoth appeared in stories such as The Old Republic, set thousands of years before the time of the Army of Light. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 02:37, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
    • Anybody have GL on speed-dial to ask him? (Though I assume if he considered every question about *just* possible historical reference for things - he'd do nothing else..) Jimw338 (talk) 04:11, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Gravity & Diameter

Both Galaxy Guide 3: The Empire Strikes Back (Second Edition), page 9 and the Star Wars Trilogy Sourcebook, Special Edition, page 193 both state that Hoth has standard gravity (i.e. 1G Earth Standard). Is it possible the article Hoth: Under the Ice was a typo or cross referenced with the wrong planet. There is absolutely no evidence Hoth is a heavy gravity planet. I think the article should be switched to standard gravity and Hoth: Under the Ice be noted as a typo in Behind the Scenes. -- Frank V Bonura 17:18, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

That is not the only contradiction from sources. I found the article using this Wizards of the coast reference, from the same Hoth: Under the Ice article, but in it there is a contradiction on the diameter of the planet. It can't be both 7,200 km and 12,875 km. Funny that what is convenient is being cherry pick from that article.
Also of note, the same article mentions the other five planets in the Hoth system but they are missing from that article.
Planets.....Type..................Moons
Shron.........Volcanic..................-
Biosh..........Barren rock............-
Nushk.........Methane oceans.....4
Jhas............Gas giant..............24
Ordaj...........Gas giant..............17
Hoth.............Ice ball....................3
Hoth Belt.......Asteroid field...........-
GabrielVelasquez (talk) 10:02, July 20, 2016 (UTC)