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Purpose of the HoloNet

About the purpose of the HoloNet: I don't know if this is appropriate for the main HoloNet article or if it belongs under HoloNet News, but would it bear mentioning that the Empire used the HoloNet in its early days to disseminate its cover story about killing of the Jedi, and to get out other sorts of propaganda (such as allowing newscasters to release images of Darth Vader)? At least from my standpoint, "propaganda" would be another use of the HoloNet besides just military communications. Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader provides ample evidence for this, and in my opinion, this role should be covered in the main HoloNet article as the way it's written makes it look as though the entire network was shut off to civilians (as in, all programming stopped broadcasting), but I leave it to those more familiar with the EU to decide on the appropriateness of making those changes. --Teris Shae

  • I'm not too familliar with the RotE and Rebellion-Eras EU, but as for me it would seem pointless for the Empire to cut civilians off such an enourmous and influental system while it could be used as a powerful propaganda tool. For example, I'm quite confident that at least one HoloNet reporter was either onboard the Executor or along with Force Blizzard during the Battle of Hoth, showing "How our good guys wipe the Rebels out". --Jakov 22:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Again this is a comment from conjecture, but I would also think a politician as savvy as Palpatine would understand the concept of "bread and circuses." Why wouldn't he want to keep entertainment and other fluffy programming running on HoloNet, at the very least? Even the Romans understood that. If you or anyone can prove that bit about the HoloNet reporter broadcasting about the Battle of Hoth, then I think we'd have more than enough grounds to alter that bit in the main article. Teris Shae 04:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Perhaps I've failed to make myself clear enough - a HoloNet reporter broadcasting from Hoth is AFAIK my pure speculation and did not appear in any novel I am familliar with. Nevertheless, I believe that the SW Universe is simmilar enough to ours to allow things like the presence of war reporters, spreading Imperial propaganda from the very first line of battle. But as far as there's no source to confirm my hypothesis - it's just a speculation. Jakov 20:16, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I see--I misinterpreted your phrasing. I think, though that in Dark Lord there's sufficient evidence at least for the early days of the Empire. Teris Shae 20:51, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Line of Sight debate

From ESB: "Darth Vader: Move the ship out of the asteroid field so that we can send a clear transmission." - so we know the HoloNet is LOS. --SparqMan 09:34, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)

  • Not necessarily - the Hoth asteroid belt might have been causing some other sort of interference (bizarre radiation of some sort, for instance). It's not an unreasonable supposition, but by no means certain. jSarek 11:09, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)

That's a good point. It still seems likely that it requires some form of line of sight, which is why the repeaters were required. Perhaps it uses similar technology to Earth holograms with a signal and reference beam. Oh well, who knows? --SparqMan 19:30, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)

  • Well, perhaps the whole "Move the ship out of the asteroid field" thing was so that the ship's shields wouldn't fail from the barrage of asteroids. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:14, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC)
  • I know this discussion hasn't been continued for months, but the likely reason that they had to move the ship out of the asteroid field was that the asteroids generated a mass shadow that could prohibit transmission through hyperspace as well as faster-than-light travel.C3PO the Dragon Slayer 00:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • This is a very good debate but it could just be a hole in the script. --Dumac 05:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I think the signal is sent via LOS to the bigger transmitters, that in turn send it through hyperspace.

  • "LOS"? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 11:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • IMO, i think the Holotransmitters would act like giant cell phone towers, and the farther you are away from one the less service you get. Which would exlplain why it is hard to get a message out from deep within the unknown region(NJO series when Luke Skywalker is looking for Zonama Sekot, I forget which book though) But if LOS is required then I would agree with Jack Nebulas that it goes from smaller transmitters to larger ones. Onto the asteroid thing, they probably had to move out of the asteroid field for the same reason its hard to use cell phones in tunnels and elevators. You are surrounded by rock, metal, and who knows what else that can easily cut your signal. Darth SargeConverse with me! 02:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Also, IMO the mass shadow theory is unlikely because then it would be really hard for the transmitters to shoot accross hyperspace when the signal would get bent when travelling past a sun or planet making it hard to determine where your message would actually be received, if it was received at all. Darth SargeConverse with me! 02:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I don't think the line implies LOS at all. I think Adm. Nebulax's theory about the shields is closer to the truth. In the Heir to the Empire trilogy we learn that FTL signals don't pass through shields. The Executor probably needed to get out of the asteroid field so they could safely lower her shields to send the transmission.Mikael Hasselstein (talk) 23:37, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

sources

This article has a sources needed tag on it which may or may not be needed. I know that the Holonet is mentioned many times in the NJO series so could someone add sources from there. I dont have some of the books so I am not sure which ones mention it. For that matter, all of them might mention it...not sure Darth SargeConverse with me! 00:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Lead quote

The current lead quote has little, if anything, to do with the HoloNet. Does anybody know any alternatives? I've been through as much material as I can and can't find any. If there aren't any ones, I'll just remove it. Unit 8311 19:21, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

How to disable the holonet?

How would one go about disabling the entire system, or a planets access to it? I'd think cutting off holo access would be vital in military operations in the SW universe.