Pandion
This is kind of small, but should the article include what Pandion said about him, and the scene where Pandion died? I think it should —Unsigned comment by Agent es (talk • contribs)
Fleet Admiral or Grand Admiral
The page is Unidentified Fleet Admiral, but the text in the page says that he is a Grand Admiral. Are these the same rank or not? In my mind, these are different ranks, and so the article should decide which is correct. And if they are the same then that should be in the article as well. If someone could tell what the actual rank is, then that would be great. Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 10:16, June 6, 2016 (UTC)
- They seem to be used interchangeably. I don't think it matters. Darth Ravigious (talk) 18:58, June 6, 2016 (UTC)
- Who is "they," though? The only mention of "Grand Admiral" I could find in Aftermath is in relation to Gial Ackbar. --LelalMekha (talk) 20:11, June 6, 2016 (UTC)4
- In reference to the rank. It was listed under the Grand admiral category. If that is the case, we should rename the page "Unidentified Grand Admiral", if what Tommy-Macaroni says is true. I only have the audiobook version, but I trust that he is probably right. Darth Ravigious (talk) 21:19, June 6, 2016 (UTC)
- Apparently, the intro to the Aftermath: Life Debt excerpt published in Bloodline does call him a Grand Admiral: "Sloane, increasingly wary of the mysterious Grand Admiral, desperately searches for a means to save the crumbling Empire from oblivion." --LelalMekha (talk) 21:30, June 9, 2016 (UTC)
- In life debt, Rax is asked if he should become a Grand Admiral, but he declines, stating that he isn't worthy. This makes me believe that he is just a fleet admiral, and the extract in Bloodline was a mistake, as Rae Sloane is the only Grand Admiral. - Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 11:41, July 10, 2016 (UTC)
- The intro from Entertainment Weekly (can be found in the Aftermath: Life Debt page) is exactly the same as the one from Bloodline, except one single world. It says "fleet admiral" instead of "Grand Admiral". The Bloodline excerpt is the only source which identifies Rax as a Grand Admiral. Considering all other sources -including the novel itself- suggest that he is a fleet admiral, I think we should go with it as well.
AnilSerifoglu (talk) 20:26, July 13, 2016 (UTC)
- Apparently, the intro to the Aftermath: Life Debt excerpt published in Bloodline does call him a Grand Admiral: "Sloane, increasingly wary of the mysterious Grand Admiral, desperately searches for a means to save the crumbling Empire from oblivion." --LelalMekha (talk) 21:30, June 9, 2016 (UTC)
- In reference to the rank. It was listed under the Grand admiral category. If that is the case, we should rename the page "Unidentified Grand Admiral", if what Tommy-Macaroni says is true. I only have the audiobook version, but I trust that he is probably right. Darth Ravigious (talk) 21:19, June 6, 2016 (UTC)
- Who is "they," though? The only mention of "Grand Admiral" I could find in Aftermath is in relation to Gial Ackbar. --LelalMekha (talk) 20:11, June 6, 2016 (UTC)4
Gallius Rax
Could someone with the ability to move pages please move this page to Gallius Rax, as that is confirmed to be his name in Aftermath Life Debt. Thank-you! Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 14:59, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- Just out of curiosity, and I am not discounting this being his actual name, but may I see a source? I am just curious. Darth Ravigious (talk) 18:26, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- It's stated many times in Aftermath: Life Debt. - Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 18:30, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- But it does not come out for another four days... Darth Ravigious (talk) 18:33, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- I live in the UK, and by chance I saw it in a shop. They likely got their order in and couldn't be bothered to wait the four days, or maybe they didn't know. But I definitely have it, and that's definitely his name. - Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 18:35, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- Just looked at the Force.com forums and some people have also read the book. They are saying the same things. I was hoping that it would be Thrawn, so I am rather disappointed. They definitely set that up in the previous book. Darth Ravigious (talk) 18:38, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- I found it pretty disappointing as well. At least Rae Sloane is still a fascinating character when trying to compete with him. - Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 18:41, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- Wendig totally set him up to be Thrawn. If he had maybe set him up differently without leaving him vague, it would have been just fine. Oh well. At least we still have Rebels. Perhaps Thrawn will found the First Order. Darth Ravigious (talk) 18:46, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- Fingers crossed! - Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 18:48, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- Obviously this is much wild speculation, but he no longer seems to be a set up for Thrawn as he does to be Snoke. NoahR9
Chat with me! 23:53, July 12, 2016 (UTC)
- Obviously this is much wild speculation, but he no longer seems to be a set up for Thrawn as he does to be Snoke. NoahR9
- Fingers crossed! - Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 18:48, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- Wendig totally set him up to be Thrawn. If he had maybe set him up differently without leaving him vague, it would have been just fine. Oh well. At least we still have Rebels. Perhaps Thrawn will found the First Order. Darth Ravigious (talk) 18:46, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- I found it pretty disappointing as well. At least Rae Sloane is still a fascinating character when trying to compete with him. - Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 18:41, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- Just looked at the Force.com forums and some people have also read the book. They are saying the same things. I was hoping that it would be Thrawn, so I am rather disappointed. They definitely set that up in the previous book. Darth Ravigious (talk) 18:38, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- I live in the UK, and by chance I saw it in a shop. They likely got their order in and couldn't be bothered to wait the four days, or maybe they didn't know. But I definitely have it, and that's definitely his name. - Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 18:35, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- But it does not come out for another four days... Darth Ravigious (talk) 18:33, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
- It's stated many times in Aftermath: Life Debt. - Tommy-Macaroni (talk) 18:30, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
Rax's Age
I noticed the page has 35 BBY as the current DOB for Rax, which would make him 40 at the time of Life Debt, and 10 when Palpatine found him. However, we learn in Chapter 14 of the same book that he was in Jakku until he was 12, since that was specifically how long it took for him to first hear composed music. Now, Palpatine didd send him back to Jakku for his first mission, so it's possible it took another 2 years before he heard music, but is there a specific source that states that? Otherwise, I think 37 BBY would be the more accurate DOB based on what we know. Sauron18 (talk) 15:15, December 30, 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry to revive an old topic (Empire's End spoilers if you haven't read it) but Aftermath: Empire's End has an interlude 25 years before 5 ABY (so 20 BBY) and it says Rax hasn't been off Jakku in 10 years and hasn't seen Palpatine since their first meeting 10 years back which would be 30 BBY. So this must mean Rax wasn't born in 35 BBY unless he was 5 then? --Lewisr (talk) 17:20, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed. Life Debt was vague about the exact year for events in Galli's childhood, but it did specify his first journey out of Jakku happened when he was 12 years old. Then Empire's End confirmed that 10 years after that, so at age 22, Rax left Jakku for good. This was 25 years before the book's present, which means Rax was 47 during Empire's End, and was born on or around 42 BBY. He may even have been born the same year as Vader. Sauron18 (talk) 06:27, March 1, 2017 (UTC)
- The times given for "Aftermath: Life Debt (Prelude, Epilogue)" and "Aftermath: Empire's End (The Imperialis 31-32)" aren't consistent each other if taken literally: "30 years ago" > 10 years > "25 years ago" > trilogy main period (4-5 ABY)
- Agreed. Life Debt was vague about the exact year for events in Galli's childhood, but it did specify his first journey out of Jakku happened when he was 12 years old. Then Empire's End confirmed that 10 years after that, so at age 22, Rax left Jakku for good. This was 25 years before the book's present, which means Rax was 47 during Empire's End, and was born on or around 42 BBY. He may even have been born the same year as Vader. Sauron18 (talk) 06:27, March 1, 2017 (UTC)
Furthermore, in "Aftermath: Life Debt (Prelude, Epilogue)" Palpatine is clearly described as already disfigured and he's already Emperor, so it should be after Episode3! In "Aftermath: Empire's End (The Imperialis 31-32)" Palpatine acts as if he has been Emperor already for some years, so it couls not be 25 years before. The errors in those titles are very big and regrettable, how could Story Group had overlooked about this? Life Debt (Prelude, Epilogue) should be re-titled "24 years ago" Empire's End (The Imperialis 31-32) should be re-titled "14 years ago" This really changes what has been known about Gallius Rax age until now!--EdoSecco (talk) 12:30, June 16, 2019 (UTC)
Page Needs to be Updated
With Empire's End now having been out for a while, someone has yet to write the details of Gallius Rax's part of the story. Only the Summary has been updated at this point. —Unsigned comment by 174.45.107.138 (talk • contribs)
- Thanks for the reminder, you're right that it should be updated. I've been updating The Aftermath Trilogy articles in the past but have been preoccupied with my university studies in New Zealand and updating Star Wars Rebels content. Hopefully, I'll get around it one day. But if you have the book and know how to edit, then I strongly encourage you to give updating the article a try. Trust me, you'll enjoy the challenge of editing and other users will always help. Isn't Wookieepedia the Star Wars Wiki that any Star Wars fan can edit? Andykatib 10:01, March 9, 2017 (UTC)
Rax's knowledge of the full implications of the Contingency.
The Last Jedi Expanded Edition now confirms that Palpatine's Contingency was always a two-fold plan in destroying the Empire, yet simultaneously ensuring its rebirth. In fact, it deliberately mentions how Palpatine actually sent scouts and had shipyards and laboratories built within the Unknown Regions over the course of decades to ensure that whoever survived his contingency would flourish. So the question is, did Rax know this part of the plan, or was he only clued in to certain hints, like say going to the Unknown Regions? The Aftermath trilogy and Battlefront II seem to only make it seem like he only knew about the destruction of the Empire portion, but he could have easily just hidden that part of the plan and wanted to take credit. Am I remembering the books wrong? Was there something else in the Aftermath trilogy that might have hinted he knew about that part of the plan? --Kingsman28 (talk) 18:38, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
Master
It says in the Aftermath series, that Rax was a secret protege to Emperor Palpatine. Would that count for his Master being the Emperor? Supreme Commander Raxus (talk) 17:38, November 5, 2018 (UTC)User:SupremeCommanderRaxus
Founder of the First Order
In the Aftermath series, Rax served as the protege of Emperor Palpatine, and was important to his plans, He secretly was tasked to destroy the Empire if Palpatine were to die. Rax said that he was going to bulid a stronger, leaner Empire within the Unknown Regions, My question is... Would he served as a Founder of the First Order by giving the idea? Let me know what you think... May the Force be with you, Supreme Commander Raxus (talk) 16:07, November 19, 2018 (UTC)User:SupremeCommanderRaxus
- I would say going with that line of thinking, Palpatine gets the credit. According to The Last Jedi Expanded Edition novel, Palpatine wanted the Contingency to not just kill the old Empire, but create a new, stronger one through the Imperials who would survive and utilize the resources and bases Palpatine had secretly been setting up in the Unknown Regions.--Kingsman28 (talk) 20:51, November 19, 2018 (UTC)
- True enough, He tasked Gallius Rax to lead the First Order if former Grand Admiral Sloane didn't shoot him several times. I would've loved to see if Rax killed Sloane or he lived, but he is dead. Supreme Commander Raxus (talk) 21:30, November 19, 2018 (UTC)User:SupremeCommanderRaxus
Rax and Darth Sidious
Did Gallius Rax know that the Emperor was Darth Sidious, because he was part of his Contingency plan and helped the Emperor with the Sith I believe.