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Asajj Ventress

What exactly is the criteria needed to consider an individual a Force-Sensitive Outcast, because based off of the description provided Asajj Ventress also qualifies. As eventually she rejected the dogma of the Jedi and Sith and became a bounty hunter. O21014 (talk) 14:17, June 09, 2020 (UTC)

Main Image

I believe the image used in the info box should be replaced. When it comes to a title, shouldn't the image displayed in the info box reflect the concept of the subject as a whole. While that image does feed into Ahsoka's claim to the Outcast title, it doesn't really represent the concept as a whole. If someone were to see the image and didn't know who Ahsoka was, they wouldn't get how an image of a togruta looking at the Jedi Temple correlates to the concept of a Force-sensitive Outcast. That said, I think the image should be of a figure with a lightsaber who looks like an exile (e.g. this image (I know this one can't be used since it was before she was an outcast but I think the image should look something like this)). A possible contender is this image, if its decided that Ventress can be considered an Outcast as I already suggested. Thats all, I would love to hear your thoughts on my proposal! O21014 (talk) 16:59, June 09, 2020 (UTC)

Ty Yorrick

If we're removing Ty Yorrick on the basis that none of the sources explicitly referred to her as one, then I'm pretty sure all of them should be since I haven't seen them be referred to as Force-Sensitive Outcasts in anything either Lewisr (talk) 16:48, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

  • That's a good point. I think we should either add her back or at least establish criteria for what should constitute inclusion on this page, until Canon establishes that for us more rigorously. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 17:44, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
    • The current three were added before because they fit the definition, rightly or wrongly, and not because they had been said to be FSO's Lewisr (talk) 17:49, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Huh, didn't know that. I thought only those specific TCW characters were classified as FSOs. Having reviewed Rise of the Separatists with Erebus' help, the term simply refers to anyone who received Jedi/Sith training and left those groups. I would have thought it was more restricting than that, since this means many, many characters are FSOs. So with this in mind, yeah, it'd make sense to list individuals that fit the description of FSOs, which includes Ty. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 17:52, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
    • I agree. I think in that case, we should probably clarify the wording of the intro of the article; and also add her back. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 17:54, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
      • Oh, I think the intro wording is clear enough. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 17:56, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
        • Cool that works, thanks for responding OOM and Yakov! Just wanted to ensure we were being consistent, as in either we list all that fit the definition, or we add only those who were specifically classified as a Force-Sensitive Outcast Lewisr (talk) 18:02, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

received training?

The intro of this article now seems to contradict itself (apparently, both citing Rise of the Separatists). Must FSO's have been trained by the Jedi or Sith and then left, or could they merely possibly have received Jedi/Sith training and left? The second seemingly contradictory piece of info says some Force-Sensitive Outcasts were undiscovered and self-taught. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 18:13, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

  • That's what the source says, though I only rewrote the first paragraph. I'll go back to the source again and fix the entire intro later tonight. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 18:16, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Bendu

I think Bendu meets the definition in the article, and he certainly rejected both the Jedi and Sith ways. He frequently reminded others that he was "the one in the middle". It is unknown if he was self-taught, but he definitely meets the definition. Should we add him to the article? -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk)

Aurra Sing

I'm not aware of anything officially labelling her as a "Force-Sensitive Outcast," but wouldn't Aurra Sing at least warrant a mention since she was trained as a Jedi prior to her becoming a bounty hunter during the Republic Era? -- Fanofcoolstuff27 (talk) 09:52, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

  • I don't think we really know about the circumstances regarding Aurra to really say or not, I think until such a point we should hold off from adding her on here Lewisr (talk) 16:39, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
    • That's fair. I'm thinking that the only reason she has been labelled as a former Jedi in canon is to match with her original Legends background. Aside from that, I don't think canon has really made much of an effort to link those two concepts up other than a few mentions in guidebooks. In fact, I don't recall there ever being any mention of her Force-sensitivity in TCW cartoon, or her link to the Jedi, which I find a little strange, since that was something that was focused on quite heavily in the Republic comics, but I digress. -- Fanofcoolstuff27 (talk) 22:56, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
      • I can only imagine that it didn't line up with their plans for Aurra hence why they didn't reference it, but we'll see what they do with her story and her time in the Jedi in canon Lewisr (talk) 17:57, 14 October 2024 (UTC)