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Source

Where is the source for those three members' names: Valkier, Buddy, and Burner? Banana32 (talk) 21:33, December 23, 2017 (UTC)

  • It seems to me that a user just made them up. Banana32 (talk) 21:37, December 23, 2017 (UTC)
    • Due to the lack of sources it's probable that it's fanon. However, someone should check the Clone wars guides online or if anyone has the Blu-ray/DVD extras then we should check if possible just to be safe.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 23:27, December 23, 2017 (UTC)
      • I checked the episode guide and there was nothing about those guys. I'm going to remove the names for now. If anyone has sources to prove that those names aren't fanon, feel free to add the members back (but remember to source them). Banana32 (talk) 00:46, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

Units

If we made a page for Doom's unit, should I go ahead and make one for Fil's, Trauma's, Keeli's, etc?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 03:11, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

  • Do we really need pages for units that appear in one episode? If we did that we may as well just make one for every episode. If they're named as anything then fair enough but otherwise I'd say no --Lewisr (talk) 03:13, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
    • So is this page necessary? I'm on the fence about this subject--Vitus InfinitusTalk 03:20, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
      • I know that no one asked me, but I'll create pages for those units you mentioned if you'd like. At least in Fil's some were actually named. Banana32 (talk) 03:25, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
        • I mean as in whether they are named as Fil's squad or whatever, it would be like having a squad page every time we get a named stormtrooper in rebels or a comic. I just don't think we need to keep creating these kinda pages unless they did something noteworthy --Lewisr (talk) 03:27, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
          • Agreed, although the concept of noteworthy can be different to each of us. We never created articles for Keeli's and Trauma's units in Legends so I guess that should give us a hint of how to proceed.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 03:30, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
            • Yes you're probably right. The only reason I could give to object is that a lot of users helped make this page up-to-standards. I guess we could trash-compact it? Banana32 (talk) 03:32, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
              • I understand why you'd want to keep it, but I agree with Ruiz about legends, I've seen a few messages on here where it was said that what was done for legends should be taken into consideration. That's why I say if it isn't named as something specific or doesn't do anything of note then we probably don't need to add it as a separate unit page --Lewisr (talk) 03:50, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
                • Good points. Also, this same unit has pages on a lot of other wikis (the Clone wiki, the Clone Wars wiki, etc.) So are we going to trash-compact it? Banana32 (talk) 03:54, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
                  • Of course but what the other wikis do is up to them haha, if you want to trash-compact it then go ahead --Lewisr (talk) 03:57, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
                    • I think Keeli and Dao is a unique case however, as the unit was referred to as a garrison and Dao's fleet was explicitly stated as such several times early in Supply Lines. Here are some quotes: "If help does not arrive soon, the entire Outer Rim garrison will be wiped out.", & "With regret, I report that my fleet will no longer be able to provide protection for the troops on Ryloth." What do you guys think? (sorry I was writing this during the past three replies--Vitus InfinitusTalk 03:58, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
                      • Interesting, except Commander Doom refers to his men on at least one occasion: "My men are severely depleted..." Hmmm...I'll wait to see what Lewisr thinks. Banana32 (talk) 04:02, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
  • Yes but Keeli's was referred to as a garrison and Dao's was referred to as his fleet. We see the "my men" and etc many times and not explicitly stated as a unit, so it would be the same as if we were just to create units for everyone. Keeli and Dao have at least been identified as a type of unit.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 04:06, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
    • I don't think Dao's is notable enough (after all, I'm sure many fleets have been referred to before). Keeli's might be, especially because at least one unidentified trooper had a speaking line. Banana32 (talk) 04:10, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
      • I was talking more along the lines of them being called something in an episode guide, the episodes always use my men, my fleet or our garrison etc that's just standard dialogue. If you really feel they are notable enough then don't let me stop you from making them --Lewisr (talk) 04:14, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
        • Okay. Banana32 (talk) 04:21, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
          • I'll hold off on making them for now until we have something more solid about them.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 04:40, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
            • I'm not so sure something will turn up after so many years. -- Banana32 (talk) 04:41, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
              • Yes I know but maybe it could be implied in a reference book or a tweet comes out from a LSG member that states they were units. I'm not going to ask them about this subject since it's not about conflicting sources or clearing something important up or until we reach a larger consensus about topics like these.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 04:45, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
                • For what my opinion is worth, Keeli's unit may be an exception since, as noted above, at least one of his men got a speaking role and the unit was effectively destroyed during the battle. As for the others, I'm not sure that unidentified GAR units even have enough of a canonical basis to warrant their own articles. Granted, groups of clone troopers bearing the same armor markings and serving under a named officer ranks a little higher than original research. But unless they receive a specific mention somewhere, I'd say nay. Bane7670 (talk) 04:52, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
                  • Great points. If anyone wishes to have this article deleted, just make sure you trash-compact it. Not sure which direction to go with units like this. Banana32 (talk) 04:59, December 29, 2017 (UTC)
                    • Oh, I know this discussion ended ages ago, however I just remembered something: Fil's unit already has a page. --B32(Talk)I-find-this-atire-appealing 23:34, January 24, 2018 (UTC)