Talk: Dooku

serenno?

"taking on the name Darth Tyranus and reclaiming his title as the Count of Serenno" is there any mention of Serenno in canon? ralok (talk) 03:04, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

• Yes. The Encyclopedia lists his homeworld as Serenno (which is referenced in the infobox). The planet is also featured extensively in The Clone Wars. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 03:52, July 20, 2014 (UTC)
  • Okay, but is it said to be a title from his planet? or that his title originates from there? or... huh... so confused, are you sure it was in The Clone Wars? ralok (talk) 22:55, July 20, 2014 (UTC)
    • Okay on the Serenno page "When Dooku turned his back on the Jedi Order, he reclaimed his title"... good! ralok (talk) 22:57, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

Move to Darth Tyranus/Canon

Similar to Darth Sidious, it seems Dooku self identifies as Darth Tyranus, only using his real name in his public persona as leader of the Confederacy of Independent systems. Darth Sidious only refers to his as Darth Tyranus as well. This is especially evident in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. I believe we should move the page to Darth Tyranus/Canon. - AV-6R7^{Crew Pit} 19:46, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

• That's not the case. The character's Databank entry consistently refers to him as Dooku and attributes Tyranus as his "secret name" or "Sith name," not one that he explicitly identified as from a personal standpoint. CC7567 ^(talk) 19:49, June 30, 2015 (UTC)
  • Agreed with CC. Sidious had specific evidence pointing to the fact that Palpatine becomes merely a public front, and that Darth Sidious is his true name. That specific, outright, clear-as-crystal evidence doesn't exist for Dooku -- which is why the community has, for years, agreed not to change the name to Darth Tyranus. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 19:50, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Powers/abilities/skills?

Shouldn't they be listed? —Unsigned comment by Lonen22 (talk • contribs)

Mention Dooku's penchant for wine

Dooku loves wine even in canon, it is evident in Dark Disciple and Tarkin. Eddo36 (talk) 18:36, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Eyes flash red in TCW

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8ye1yt&s=8#.VVK3np_D_qA This isn't the only time Dooku's eyes flashed red, but also when he was in the shadows his eyes flash red. Eddo36 (talk) 05:42, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Table of Contents not working

Request fix. Eddo36 (talk) 07:58, February 18, 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind Eddo36 (talk) 07:59, February 18, 2017 (UTC)

Dooku first name?

I recently reverted a user's edit on this page where he put Dooku's full name as Yan Dooku. I reverted it because he did not site a source. I was just making sure that this hasn't been revealed? Does anyone know for sure. If it has I'll gladly add it back and cite it in the appearances section? Thanks.--Benjay2345 (talk) 21:27, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

• A Google search for "Yan Dooku" turns up several hits related to fan fiction. Presumably, that's all it is. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:29, April 30, 2018 (UTC)
  • Okay, I was just double checking. I didn't think it was official but just wanted to double check. Thanks.--Benjay2345 (talk) 23:10, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

Timeline inconsistency

On Dooku's and Darth Sidious's pages it is mentioned that he joined the Sith as the replacement for Darth Maul after the latter's supposed death, but the Mission to Oba Diah (pre–Naboo Crisis) shows he was a Sith before the Naboo Crisis. Should this inconsistency be fixed? Ressor (talk) 21:10, April 10, 2020 (UTC)

Actually can we talk about this?

Because I'm seeing more evidence of Dooku having been a Sith Apprentice at the same time as Maul, without the two knowing of each other's existence, than there is of him becoming one only after Maul's defeat on Naboo.

• According to Dooku: Jedi Lost, he leaves the Jedi Order in his 60s, he's in his 80s in Attack of the Clones.
• According to Master & Apprentice, he's very clearly trying to lure Rael Averross to the Dark Side, and that's 8 years before The Phantom Menace.
• He arranged Sifo-Dyas' death before The Phantom Menace.
• Filoni said it, while he and George Lucas were working on the Sifo-Dyas episodes.

Clearly, he was a Sith before Episode 1.

The only thing that assumes that he wasn't is the idea that Palpatine would respect the Rule of Two, which... would he really? I mean, in Legends, he for sure doesn't particularly care about it. In canon, he - at the very least - is clearly not using the Rule of Two for its intended purpose (keeping the Sith lineage going), and on the contrary is looking for ways to get absolute power and immortality.

Sure, he tells Maul "there can only be Two, and you have been replaced", but c'mon, Maul had his own apprentice, he was obviously a rival. It really not so far-fetched for Dooku to be a Sith Apprentice before Episode 1.

David Kibasennin (talk) 02:42, September 26, 2020 (UTC)

• If the sources say that he was a Sith before TPM then that should be reflected in the article --Lewisr (talk) 03:16, September 26, 2020 (UTC)

Discrepancies

It's written here that "As Rise of the Separatists is only a roleplaying sourcebook, this article assumes Count Dooku 1, Master & Apprentice, and Jedi Lost are correct." As early as 2013 with the creation of the Story Group, it was stated, more than once, that the goal was to create a cohesive story telling experience. The canon hierarchy was being abolished, and supposedly one form of officially released media no longer took precedence over another, including the movies. This ideal was repeated again once Disney took the helm. I'm curious why a sourcebook is given less credence than novels. Numbers wise, if we use one of Chee's old canon criteria, the sourcebook would be outweighed, but in the next paragraph, other sources are given that support what the sourcebook says. I'm not really making an argument pro- or anti-Dooku as Sith apprentice while Maul was also an apprentice. I'm simply asking why the sourcebook seems to be devalued as authority when compared to a novel. Is there anything official on this topic? Thanks for any help! Red Heathen ^{Super Secret Hideout} 22:32, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

• Story material is generally always going to be taken over anything in reference material. Pretty sure even members of the story group might have said that also, but can't recall or find anything Lewisr (talk) 00:09, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Sections in incorrect order

I just removed a couple lines that claimed that Dooku became Tyranus at the end of the episode "The Sith Lord." This is an assumption; there is nothing in the episode to indicate this. Sidious calling Dooku "my apprentice" is not the same as if he had said "my new apprentice."

I'd like to point out that the page as it stands now is in the wrong order. From "The Sith Lord" we know that Dooku started the clones before he killed Yaddle... but the page currently wrongly lists it as having occurred after that, as though he became Tyranus after killing Yaddle, and then he hired Jango.

But since we know even from AOTC that Dooku went by the name Tyranus when he hired Jango, this confirms that he was already Darth Tyranus well before the events of "The Sith Lord." The fact is, we do not know at exactly which moment Dooku got the name Tyranus (my best guess is back around the time of his dealings with the Pykes regarding Sifo-Dyas, since they knew him by that name), but we do know that he was definitely already Tyranus before the beginning of "The Sith Lord."

So basically: Dooku had to have become Tyranus before he hired Jango for the clones, and he had to have hired Jango for the clones before killing Yaddle. 24.236.111.96 18:16, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

• How do you know Dooku became Darth Tyranus "well before" he hired Jango? And please define the time period of "well before" and explain how you arrived at this. We know from four sources when Dooku became Sidious' apprentice, and this happened in 32 BBY. Red Heathen ^{Super Secret Hideout}

Dooku's age

We currently have contradictory sources for Dooku's age, the Dooku: Jedi Lost script establishes that he was 'fifty-something' when he becomes the Master of Qui-Gon, which working out from Master & Apprentice was in 68 BBY, this would put Dooku's birth in at least 118 BBY. This contradicts Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know and Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know, Updated and Expanded, which say he was 80 at the time of the Battle of Geonosis, and Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Character Encyclopedia - Join the Battle!, which establishes he was born 102 BSW4 (putting his birth in 102 BBY). So which date should we be using? Lewisr (talk) 03:03, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

• Based on that, seems Jedi Lost may be an outlier, so I'd be inclined to go with the source that directly gives a date and is also the most recent, Join the Battle. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 03:05, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
  • The issue is that impacts other dates, if he was 50 something when he became the Master of QGJ, that would put it in 52 BBY at least Lewisr (talk) 03:13, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
    • Basing off M&A—QGJ was 40 in that, and it says he became a Padawan at 12 if I remember correctly. So that places him becoming a Padawan in 68 BBY. M&A seems to have very minimal dating issues, and also matches up with Skywalker: A Family at War and Padawan on other stuff like Kenobi's age that also is revealed in M&A and the TCW book, so it does seem as if the 50 something dating should be tossed entirely.—spookywilloww^talk 03:18, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
      • This wouldn't impact anything to do with Obi-Wan's age etc, QGJ's age is never specified in DJL. The only thing it would effect is when Dooku and his clanmates are born, and DJL gives other specific ages for when certain events take place in Dooku's life Lewisr (talk) 03:35, 6 February 2023 (UTC)