Talk: Demagol

Escape

I'm sure that he escaped and let others to think that he was unconcious when the jedis took the supposed body of Demagol. Look closely how he stared to Jarael, and when Zayne talked to him he didn't responded. I could be mistaken but it would be too easy to discard Demagol. He looked at Jarael's tattoo and wanted to experiment on her.-Darth Venger

• It hasn't been explicitly stated in the comics yet though. -- I need a name (Complain here) 12:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

That's a great advise and comment, but like I said I could be mistake. Maybe he was captured or maybe he switched armors. But the way that Demagol looked at Jarael before he tortured Alek and in the last comic when the one that was inside the armor of Commander Rohlan. That's I didn't changed anything until the next comic because I wanted to be sure. But it could be a great Idea to know more about Demagol. Thank you, let's see more comments. And remember, May The Force Be With You... Always.-Darth Venger

In Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 42: Masks "Rohlan" calls Malak "squint" a name he heard twice at most(assuming he is Rohlan) I would call that more evidence.SargeLIVES 22:02, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Species

I noticed that Demagol was placed under the Gallery of Unknown Species section, but in the article it says that he is a Mandie, so shouldn't his species part in the character template be listed as Mandalorian and then removed from that Gallery? Vezz801 20:46, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

• He is Mandalorian by affiliation alone. We don't know if he is of the actual species. --Redemption^Talk 20:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

If you ask me, by the looks of his head, he might be a Kaleesh. I wondered when there would be known Grievous ancestors. Don't you agree? DarthWill3 21:10, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Nickname?

Shouldn't the 'Nickname' tag be removed? He's referred to as Demagol in the KotOR Handbook.Tocneppil 06:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

• Why is it even in the article in the first place? This is the first I've heard about 'Demagol' being a nickname rather than his real name. -- I need a name (Complain here) 01:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
  • According CUSWE Demagol was a mandalorian word for sculptor of flesh or butcher. So, I think nickname tag should remain, because it's not his actual name.--Jedi Marty 14:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
    • I just checked the KoTOR Handbook, which confirms that it's not his real name. -- I need a name (Complain here) 19:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
      • It doesn't say "Demagol isn't his real name", it says that "it is unknown weather it is his real name or not".Gratulor - User Page 22:35, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Escape

No...I can't believe it. Rohlan, a fake! He still wanted Jarael to become a great warrior! Remember that. Demagol was sadistic and wanted to probably experiment on her. He would have had a chance when (spoiler) he destroyed the assassin droid. She was defeated, so were Camper and Elbee. Rohlan, is well, Rohlan. Maybe thats just a change in character. He may prefer medicine over his old battles. Thats something to consider too.Revan Malak 15:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

"Though not a warrior..." should be removed

Simply put. I think this line should be removed for two reasons. 1) There's no proof he wasn't, and 2) all Mandalorians are warriors. I think it should be more neutral, like "Though he didn't focus as much on combat as science...", and also that's how the CG puts it. Gratulor - User Page 23:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Bocce

Demagol was a fluent Bocce user? What's the source of this revelation? Wasn't Bocce invented 'bout 4k years later? Immob 10:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Zeltron?

The article currently lists Demagol's species as Zeltron. Is there a source for this?Te Mirdala Mand'alor 20:55, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

• Based on comments here (possible spoilers), I assume it's from some sort of early French release or something. Which is virtually unverifiable, hence I will probably revert it. -- I need a name (Complain here) 21:28, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Its been changed back again, and I don't doubt it this time, but can someone at least add a source to it? Te Mirdala Mand'alor 04:56, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The source is the last issue from kotor, the #47 --Revan, Prodigal Knight 10:38, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

• It was never said in the issue though, so shouldn't it be kept anonymous until officially stated? He could just as well be of Sith descent, although unlikely that is. Gratulor - User Page 13:29, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Armor

The article says "however he refused to don Neo-Crusader armor." That suggests that he's wearing Crusader armor, which means he's a former Crusader and should be added to that category.--Mand'alor te Siit 22:20, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

• He was the science advisor to Mandalore when the Mandalore was re-establishing the Mandalorian identity, so he would probably be a Neo-Crusader. The Neos are more about taking ranks than about the armour they wear, at least according to the CG. But he would probably have joined before that so yeah, he probably was a Crusader when he joined. But it's not been confirmed beyond that, yet he is listed in the CG as donning a Mandalorian Combat Suit, or in other words the lighter of the Crusader armours. Gratulor - User Page 13:29, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
  • Well, it's been confirmed in the preview for issue 48 that he was indeed a Crusader, so I think I should go ahead and add that to the article. Gratulor - User Page 08:10, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
    • It looks alot like he's wearing the Shock Trooper armor to me. --TangoFett 03:43, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Page name

Anybody else think that the page should be moved to Antos Wyrick? That's how he introduced himself after all. Although I think it may be best to wait until #48. Mauser^Comlink 11:46, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

• Take into account that he was introducing himself to Jarael, who knows Wyrick as that guy from her childhood and Demagol as some mad scientist who wanted to torture her, so he's obviously not going to introduce himself as Demagol. But I'd wait until issue 48 anyway, since it appears to be his backstory. -- I need a name (Complain here) 13:11, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
  • I think it should be kept as Demagol. In the Kotor CG, it was stated that even though Demagol might not be his given name the Mandalorians see the armoured persona as the warrior's (or doctor's) true identity, and since he joined the Mandalorians he would see himself as Demagol and not Antos Wyrick. It's like the Darth title - we don't have Alek Squircegasimus as the Darth Malak page and we don't have Dessel as the page for Darth Bane. But yeah, we should at least wait for a change in the next issues before changing anything. Gratulor - User Page 13:20, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
  • I agree take Kal Skirata for example that wasn't his original name it was originally falin mattran then when he joined the mandalorians he changed it to Kal skirata, Kal which is mandalorian for blade so it is likely that wyrick renamed himself demagol as he himself possibly considered himself a sculpteror of flesh and to embrace his new mandalorian heritage --Mando'ade1138 07:06, December 14, 2009 (UTC)Mando'ade1138

Neo-Crusader vs Crusader

Demagol refers to the Neos as "Cassus Fett's Neo-Crusaders" with contempt, and to Rohlan Dyre as a "fighter in the classic mold". I think the Neos aren't a generation as in all Mandalorians of this era are Neos, but as the cult as depicted in the Kotor CG, and Demagol shows hostility to it's ideals. I think he was always a Crusader, since he opposed the Neo-Crusaders. Sources to look for are the Handbook for Kotor, Kotor CG and the Journal of Dr. Demagol. Gratulor - User Page 13:53, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

A little note on the Mando'a use here

Since I am not a registered member I thought I'd just add a note here. There are grammar issues with both this and Mandalore the Indomitable's article when it comes to Mando'a. To get the plural of each word, you add an -e or -se. In this case the word Mando'ade culture translates to Mandalorians culture. A better suited word would either be just Mandalorian culture, or the general noun and verb in Mando'a which is simply Mando. Mando culture or Mandalorian culture. 193.69.162.242 15:48, November 18, 2011 (UTC)