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Bird-like?!

In what sense is this a bird like species? Alexrd 00:31, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

His beak, his tail, the way he walks... ZEM talk to me! 01:38, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
  • His beak aswell as his neck and legs look more like a turtle's. The tail is definitely not from a bird. Alexrd 01:48, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
    • I completely agree with Alexrd. Unless some official source has stated he is of an avian or reptavian species, then to say that is OR. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 01:55, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
      • Change what you want, but "turtle-like" is no better—birds actually exist in Star Wars, whereas turtles do not. CC7567 (talk) 04:50, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
        • Actually, you're wrong. We have Yavin turtles, puffer turtles, giant sea turtles, to name a few.—Tommy 9281 Mechnochair-NEGWT (Mechno-chair) 04:56, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
          • Then where to draw the line between what is OR and what isn't is not up to me. CC7567 (talk) 04:57, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
            • I agree that it's best to wait a bit before we say what the Cosians are "like." Some source down the line will make a comparison (to birds, turtles, camels, whatever), and then we can repeat it, but until then, we should just hang on. ~ SavageBob 05:52, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
              • Agree with Bob. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:57, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
                • I never said that "turtle-like" is better. My point is that "bird-like" is wrong. Alexrd 14:50, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

I believe i may be able to settle this peacefully without nit ending in a bloody coup. what about reptavian? he has digitigrade feet, a reptillian/bird beak, and a long, dinosaur-like tail wih either a club or feathers tied in a knot. the long tail would be used for balance, like lizards, whilst the long neck would be perfect for eating insects both high and low, similar to a ratite, like ostriches. the turtle people say he's reptilian, and the bird people say avian. reptavians are common in star wars (peko peko etc.), and cosians seem to fit into this category quite nicely.66.42.173.161 15:19, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

  • Until a source explicitly says as much, we are unable to call them reptavian. In other words, we can only parrot what other sources say, otherwise we're guilty of original research. ~ SavageBob 21:15, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

He looks like an Ishi Tib to me.

How is it original research when he even has scales and feathers!?!? i understand that we can't do that, but he is clearly reptavian, anyone can see that. besides, who makes these rules?66.42.173.161 11:59, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

i took a look at that yonder link you done just put in, and now i feel sheepish. i still don't understand completely, but, if i don't want the same person on my back, i'd better shut up.66.42.173.161 12:01, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

  • Don't worry about it. It takes a little getting used to. :) ~ SavageBob 14:46, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Something that I don't get

I don't see how that quite... fits. I'm probably going to get blocked by an admin (probably T&R, he doesn't seem to like me), is why we can't say he's reptavian. Now, mind you, I know the whole original research thing, but still. can we really say, for instance, that princess leia is human? She could be a shapeshifter for all we know!!! Can we assume that Mammon Hoole is really a shi'ido? Perhaps he's a jedi that can alter his appearance through the force, or is another shapeshifter PRETENDING to be a shi'ido. Or maybe they're all HRD!!! did anyone think of that? no. And we're arguing over whether a scaled, digitigrade, furred creature is reptavian or not! wow... that's... sad.Gnost-Dural 16:35, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

  • I just noticed this, and despite the histrionics, it's a good question. Basically, we use the "duck test" when assigning species IDs to characters whose species has not been specifically noted. In other words, if it looks like an [X], it walks like an [X], it must be an [X]. You're right that this falls apart when we take into account shape-shifting species, human-replica droids, and stuff like that, since we could always argue that some random background [X] was actually a [Y] who was shapeshifted or whatever. But we've decided that this is an assumption we're willing to make, since otherwise we can't take anything as "true" in the galaxy far far away. After all, even that X-Wing on p. 3 of Comic A could just be a hologram, right?
  • However, with regard to biological classifications, like mammal, avian, reptilian, and reptavian, things are not so cut-and-dried. For one, "reptavian" and "reptomammal" are not classifications that have had any clear explanation as far as I know. They're made-up, pseudoscientific words. You can't spot a reptomammal in a crowd, since we don't know what one really is. In other words, we can't speculate about what biological category the Cosians fall into, at least not in an article. ~ SavageBob 16:19, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Bony club?

I think it looks more like tied-back fur or feathers. confirm?208.102.123.1 13:30, January 18, 2011 (UTC)