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General

Um...wasn't it Sal-Solo who used it to destroy the Yuuzzie fleet? I seem to recall Anakin wanted to do it, but wimpy old Jacen stopped him. QuentinGeorge 10:23, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Yuuzzies? That's a new one. -- Riffsyphon1024 10:32, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I think this articles lacks some background information. Who made it? How did it go there? The Hollowtown was uninhabited, but since when? Who lived there when it was inhabited? 62.74.5.134 08:39, 3 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Q: Who made it?

A: Unknown, but CS and the Corellian system (orbital position-wise) are about one million years old (Time Tales conjecture based on Cracken's Threat Dossier and The Essential Chronology).

There's a fan theory that's been making the rounds in some circles (myself being one of them) for a while that they might have been made by the same unknown and long gone ancient civilisation who positioned the Maw, dubbed the "Hyperspace Aliens. It's a bit long and complicated, so I'll save the jibba-jabba for a more appropriate time. I'll just say now that it has nothing to do with those Rakata/Rataka/whatever KOTOR losers, as some toddlers seem so fixed on pegging everything with at times...

Q: How did it go there?

A: I'm going to assume that you mean how it moved planets across the voids of interstellar space, which it did by locking its repulsor tractor beam onto planetary repulsors built into the planets' crusts, then literally pulling them toward the (then) future location of the Corellian system through Hyperspace. Centerpoint Station generated power from the influence of the gravity wells of Talus and Tralus.

Q: The Hollowtown was uninhabited, but since when?

A: Hollowtown was destroyed when the central Glowpoint incinerated it during the Sacorrian Triad used the Station to supernova their first star during the Corellian Crisis in 18 ABY (Year 53).

Q: Who lived there when it was inhabited?

A: Hollowtown was inhabited by people from Talus and Tralus, which is where the small numbers of survivors returned after the city was destroyed.--Spanky The Dolphin 02:03, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I'd be content if you incorporated your answers to the article itself :) Anyway, I tried to do it myself. The article looks more complete now 62.74.4.126 07:22, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)
    • The "Hyperspace Aliens" have nothing to do with the discovery of hyperdrive, it's just what they've been dubbed by fans. I edited that junk out of the article. It's like 3 AM right now, but I'll see what I can do tomorrow.--Spanky The Dolphin 08:02, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)

In 'The Joiner King' the Killiks claim that they created it.

  • The Killiks are twits! Don't beleive anything they say!Jasca Ducato 18:00, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • Okay, that was uncalled for. But as for the Killiks created Centerpoint Station, there was probally a Joiner to one of the Killik nests that took part in the station's construction. When someone joins a Killik nest, a part of their mind comes with them. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:10, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

How about the Kwa? They are an extra-galactic species that built the Infinity Gate and Star Temple on Dathomir. I think that they might have built Centerpoint Station in the distant past long before the Old Republic.

Why is the fact that Centerpoint Station moved Talus and Tralus in question? In the Corellian Trilogy, it is clearly evident that they both have hyperdrive engines in their planetary bodies. Darthcraigious 15:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Stub

Why is there a planet-stub there rather than a tech stub or something else? Cmdr. J. Nebulax 00:52, 18 Nov 2005 (UTC)

  • Probably because Centerpoint, despite being artificial, qualifies as an inhabited planet (or moon) with a fixed orbit and perminant population (until evacuated.) Admiral Wes Janson
    • The same could be said about the Death Star II. It was like a moon around the Forest Moon of Endor and many lived on it (even if it was their job to be stationed there). Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 12:43, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Except the Death Star II was under construction, and intended to be mobile. It was only there for the duration of construction, essentially as if it were in a shipyard. If the Death Star was going to stay in orbit there, and had no engines, I would say put a planet/moon stub on it as well. --AdmiralWesJanson 07:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Size

WTF? It's not 1000 km lenghtwise. That's bigger than the Second Death Star! I got the impression from Assault at Selonia that it was 350 km lengthwise and about 100km wide. Source anyone? Chack Jadson 01:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

  • 100 km diameter is confirmed via Coruscant and the Core Worlds. The center sphere, that is, is 100 km. Also confirms Hollowtown diameter is 60 km. Enochf 12:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Recent Change

Previously the article said that the planets Talus and Tralus "possibly" had planetary repulsors and may have been native to the Corellian System. In "Showdown at Centerpoint" it clearly states many times that these two planets possess planetary repulsors as well. I have made the change to this article.

Centerpoint Images

I've found it a bit odd that there are basically 2 canonical versions of Centerpoint, one being that found in the NEC and in the main pic of the article, the other being the one found in the schemtics as well as the Essental Guide to Planets and Moons, that being this one:

http:// img137.imageshack.us/img137/3079/centerpointstationgt4.jpg

So, are they simply artistic differences or is one preferred over another in this article? --Sauron18 06:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Earliest Sighting

What is the protocol for listing a ship/station's "earliest sighting"? Since it's measured in GFFA years (BBY/ABY), doesn't that make it an in-universe designation? If so, then it doesn't make sense for Centerpoint's earliest sighting to be listed as 18 ABY. Yes, that's the date of the first time it's mentioned, but it wasn't exactly hidden from the Corellians prior to that.

  • Centerpoint is mentioned by the librarian in the Theed libarary, in Star Wars Galaxies. As SWG is set in 1 ABY, this shows that people must have known about Centerpoint before 18 ABY.Tom rules 20:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Um I think the point was kind of missed. Canonically, Centerpoint has been around thousands of years. Since, like it says above, "earliest sighting" is in ABY or BBY years, it's an IU measurement, right? If it were OOU, it'd be listed like "Ambush at Corellia," rather than in an IU form of years. So, since it's an in-universe concept, and Centerpoint has been a fixture in the Corellian system (according to canon) for a long time, its "first sighting" CANNOT be 18 ABY. My suggestion would be 1,000,000 BBY, since that's the date given in the article for its construction by the Celestials, but we could err on the side of caution and just not have an "earliest sighting" date. 72.179.42.79 07:41, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
      • sorry that was me...wasn't signed in Jenosidanian 07:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Continuity Headaches

Just one quibble: Wedge Antilles is Corellian and grew up in the Corellian system, which is home to this bizarre space station that is 350 kilometers in diameter. So why is he the guy who exclaims "look at the size of that thing" when the comparatively small Death Star comes into view? (from the officail site) I say we should really put it into the article somewhere! Mauser 15:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

  • I've seen news reports on people who weight half a ton...doesn't mean I'm not duly impressed when I see 350-pound linemen while watching football.
    • A slightly larger quibble, if you think about it, is why Han dismissed the idea that the DS was a space station at all. Obviously the reasoning is simple, because the idea for Centerpoint didn't exist when the film was made...81.86.76.6 20:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
    • This one's actually explainable without a continuity headache: Centerpoint was there since the dawn of time, built by mysterious god-like creatures thought to have built the Corellian System and the Maw, etc. It was a cosmic mystery and wonder of the galaxy, a Pyramid of Giza-like structure from prehistory with an unknown purpose. The Death Star was built by the Empire in secret using contemporary technology, not the lost secrets of the Celestials. It makes sense for Han to be skeptical that anyone could duplicate the work of the Celestials.
      • Except that when Han first laid eyes on the Death Star, he had no idea it was a modern construction. He knew nothing about it. It could have been another prehistoric edifice. His words indicated that he didn't believe something that size could be a space station at all, not that he disbelieved it could be a contemporary one. Asithol 20:09, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Babylon station look-alike

Anyone notice Centerpoint looks like the Babylon stations? - 64.222.149.167 00:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

No artificial gravity?

Ok, so it could move planets through space but didn't have artificial gravity because it wasn't invented yet? Kind of a cheesy reason, is that canon, or just someones interpretation why Hollowtown was built where it was? - Not gonna tell ya 12:00, 9.4.08 (PST)

  • I have to agree. It seems to me that any race with sufficient technological capability to manipulate gravity to collapse a star on the other side of the galaxy should also have been able to handle artificial gravity. SpartHawg948 02:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Though it is possible that when the first colonizers discovered Shell 1 they noticed that the spinning allow it to generate gravity and decided that that would make it an ideal place for settlement.--99.141.199.96 16:15, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

eras icons

Shouldn't the eras icon above the infobox be changed to include a pre-republic symbol? 1,000,000 BBY is within that era, right?--Call me Zakkoroen.Talk to me.What I've done.. 21:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Deck layout and rotation axis of Centerpoint Station?

How Centerpoint Station rotates around itself? Does it rotate along its longer axis (around a line passing from the center of the Hollow Town and cylinders)? If the station rotates around its longer axis to simulate gravity then how the decks of the cylinders are arranged? I think the station rotates around its longer axis and so each deck is actually a cylindrical layer. Each cylinder (I mean each cylindrical deck layer) has another cylinder within itself. And each deck is actually the inner surface of a cylindrical layer. Am I correct about this assessment? And since Sinkhole Station is a copy of Centerpoint does this mean that Sinkhole Station's cylinder deck layout is similar to the Centerpoint Station? So are my assumptions about deck layout and rotation axis correct for the Sinkhole Station too? Please assist me. I am very confused about the rotation and deck layout of these two stations.--Khosann 19:49, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

  • The deck layout based on the passage "From a distance, it appeared as a huge partially translucent sphere with two small cylindrical poles facing Talus and Tralus." the stations poles remain in fixed position and the shell rotates around that axis. So it would look similar to the way Babylon 5 was depicted as opposed to a bicycle spoke tumbling end over end. --Qwartx (talk) 18:49, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

Creators

Article says it was created by the Thuruht, but it also supposedly was created by the Celestials, and that article for the Celestials says they created it as well. Whats going on here? 216.189.254.200 04:59, October 17, 2017 (UTC)