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Aristotelian tragic hero
Atris fits into the model of the Aristotelian tragic hero. She is a basically good person who is taken down by a single flaw, in this case, arrogance. She thought she could stop the Sith by herself. She is even redeemed in the end, like the traditional Aristotelian tragic hero. Varas HalcyonVaras Halcyon.
- Well, that depends on which ending of K2 you believe in, as there's currently no canonical one. - Sikon [Talk] 17:20, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Actually, Sikon, the Lightside Female is canonical, I believe. Besides, we can say it's only with a lightside ending.
- You're wrong. See Jedi Exile#Behind_the_scenes. - Sikon [Talk] 14:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Actually, you must have missed the bit about them attempting to make the exile female, besdies, in this instance the gender doesn't matter, only the alignment, which is indisputadley lightside. So, canonically, Atris was redeemed. Varas Halcyon
- The alignment hasn't been decided. As for gender, Chee was only "pushing" for a female Exile, but whether he succeeded is to be revealed. - Sikon [Talk] 16:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, every other lucasarts game with alingment options is cannonically lightside, and that really is besdies the point. Light or dark Exile, Atris does qualify as an Aristotelian tragic protagonist. Varas Halcyon
- So put it in "Behind the scenes". Cutch 17:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Would it be inappropriate to mention Atris' romantic interest in The Exile regardless of gender? The mention is scant at best but she does repeat her line about caring for The Exile regardless of if you are male or female. -- The only thing that changes is Kreia's interpretation of those feelings and that too could be imbedded in the article. BHRamsay 17:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Second Darth Traya
Wouldn't it be fair to mention that she believed she was Darth Traya?
It makes her Sith, after all, even if for a short time. And she does have the knowledge to become Sith, after all. —Unsigned comment by 85.12.98.4 (talk • contribs)
- Atris being Traya, really or allegedly, is cut content and therefore non-canon. - Sikon [Talk] 13:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually, that's not entirely certain. Note that Atris says during the confrontation with the Exile that Atris is no longer her name. Who is she if she is not Atris? Surely that means she is Darth Traya. She is mistaken, of course, since Kreia has tricked her and is actually Traya herself. But it always seemed clear to me that Atris thought she was Traya, even if wasn't the case. Jediphile 23:11, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
"Sith" in the infobox
Will people stop adding "Sith" to the infobox already? (It's funny that it was an IP who reverted it.) Atris never was a Sith, never declared herself a Sith, and never took the title of Sith from any other Sith, self-proclaimed or not. - Sikon (Vacation) 16:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- As a note, the person who had made the earlier comment wasn't the same as the person editting it, as that was me. Sorry about the IP problem. Anyway, in the KotoR 2 guide, Atris is called Darth Traya, and the guide had a picture of her in other robes below the main picture...does that make her as Darth Traya canon?
- Atris-as-Traya is cut, and therefore not canon. - Sikon 06:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
It also called Darth Traya 'Kreia' if that helps at all.Sinrebirth
- I personally hope that she is retconned to be the unknown Darth. Darth Kreia, named after the Sith who showed her the truth about herself. DarthMalus
Aristotelian tragic protagonist
Isn't this original research? - Sikon 10:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Jedi Guardian figure
I'm sure it's meant to represent Brianna, not Atris - given how the Jedi Consular figure is Mical and the Jedi Sentinel is Visas Marr. Brianna was a Guardian in the game and had a hood. Atris was never identified as a Guardian and didn't have a hood. - Sikon 05:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
- No. It's definitely Atris. She is wearing the exact same robes and there is no hood. Look closely and you can see a few strands of hair on her face and also her ears can be seen. --RedemptionTalk
05:07, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm. Then it's weird... - Sikon 06:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
How many lightsabers does she have?
I've never played KOTOR II yet, but she is one of my favorite characters. Anyways, on Wikipedia, under Lightsaber users, it says that Atris has many different colored lightsabers and I don't think that's true. If it is can i see some pics please. thanx DarthKyle 04:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- As far as I know, she only has one of her own, as well as the lightsaber that had once belonged to the Exile.--Lord OblivionSith holocron 06:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Different gender
If you play as the female she scolds at you, however if you are male it sounds like a bad love story. THat just sounds dumb —Unsigned comment by 68.58.59.206 (talk • contribs)
- The dialogues with Atris are actually identical for a male or female Exile. -BaronGrackle 02:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Dumb ending
Defeating Atris was the dumbest thing ever. You just left her there you could have asked her to join you or to leave a party member there. Why would she stay there and she knows the planet is going to be destroy. —Unsigned comment by 68.58.59.206 (talk • contribs)
- What dialogue choices are you picking? Atris mentions going on a self imposed exile if you're light side.
- Jesus Christ, do you do anything but whine about stuff you don't like? -- I need a name (Complain here) 00:44, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Just give him a warning for turning talk pages into his own little opinion pages. --RedemptionTalk 00:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Name
If you look here: Words the latin dictionary describes words of the ater and atr prefix as meaning dark, black, spiteful, poisonous murky, gloomy and deadly. Rather fitting I think, and no doubt no co-incidence. 58.178.213.227 14:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
- I think you have a point. It may be worth mentioning on the page. Latin derivations are done with other characters. Master Aban Fiolli (Alpheridies University ComNet) 14:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Death?
I thought that when Darth Nihilus attacked Telos that he would have killed her the same way that the other jedi masters on katar died. shouldent that of happened? Ivel 22:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Darth Nihilus did not get to use his power on Telos, because Carth Onasi arrived with his fleet and prevented Nihilus' from getting close enough to the planet. Besides, the Exile, Mandalore and Visas boarded the Ravager and stopped Nihilus before he could use his powers. Jediphile 23:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Did Atris die in canon?
I realise LS is the canon ending of TSL, but even playing LS, the Exile still has the choice of whether to kill or redeem Atris, so I don't think it can be concluded that Atris lived simply on the basis of the LS ending of TSL being canon. Is it stated in a canon source that Atris was spared and redeemed? Jediphile 23:42, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Redemption is the most light side, so it's assumed that that option was the correct one. - Drewton (Drewton's Holocron) 01:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Jedi Watchman?
On page 40 of the KOTOR Campaign Guide for the role-playing game, there is a picture of Atris and it refers to her as a Jedi Watchman. Should we mention this in the article? Sith Alchemy 101 12:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Species?
Atris is listed here as human, but is it possible she was an echanni? She physically resmbles one and surrounds herself with echanni handmaidens. 69.136.102.142 02:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- The Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide lists her as Human, so no she is not Echani. The similarity is however mentioned in the BtS section. Xicer9(Rawr) 02:53, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide also lists Brianna the last handmaiden as human though because star wars saga edition rules don't include echani.
Was development so bad...
That people neglected to mention that Atris eventually attacks you upon your return to the Telos academy? Or did no one else understand the terrible story development? —Unsigned comment by 75.157.11.107 (talk • contribs)
Padawan
Since Atris was a Jedi historian, if she had taken a Padawan, would she have trained them as a Knight or as a historian? Maxi6(Feel The Force!) 12:54, 30 July 2009 (UTC)Maxi6
Age
It is said in The Old Republic : Revan that she's about the same age that Bastila. I think it's an error.--90.5.154.177 18:51, July 30, 2012 (UTC) Revanchist
- It's canon, all the same, though. And Shan's age was never concretely established. either.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 19:07, July 30, 2012 (UTC)