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The Arc Hammer was not an Imperial-class Star Destroyer. The ship is far larger, and looks nothing like an ISD. JimRaynor55 10:38, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What source does the number of 7,000 meters and that huge armament come from? Sounds made up to me. JimRaynor55 21:54, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's been almost a month, and I still haven't received any reply from the guy who posted the numbers about the ship's length and weapons. Can any of you guys tell me if those numbers are for real? If not, I think we should assume those numbers are fanon and remove them. JimRaynor55 07:42, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I can't find any reference to the armament, but the SWTC lists the length as greater than 6.4 km, based on scaling against the Executor and some ISDs. Still, that's just Saxton's educated guess, and the Arc Hammer was primarily a mobile manufacturing plant rather than a ship of the line. So probably all the statistics should be removed until we get hard evidence. -- Darth Culator 11:49, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Differences

Aren't the two pics inconsistent? If yes,the one should go to BtS section pointing the inconsistency MoffRebus 18:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Size matters

There is no way the Arc Hammer is ~1km... thats smaller than a Venator Star destroyer! The movies from the game have the Arc hammer behind the Executor, and it is quite large. Seeing the game is the source, it should be approximated from that. -- —Unsigned comment by Pinioncorp (talk • contribs)

I am not good determining dimensions by the eye. If you have any proposal fix it MoffRebus 09:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • VT-16 should be able to help us with it. He's good with that kind of stuff. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 11:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, unless there's any actual comparisons present, we can't actually estimate anything. Anyone got screenshots? VT-16 14:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
    • And to think I thought you were good at that... ;) Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 14:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
    • It seemed to be about the half of Executor MoffRebus 19:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Which Executor? The shorter one, the longer one... ;) Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 20:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
      • I don't have the game. But I will try YouTubing for it. :/ VT-16 23:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
        • I'll assume for now that Executor's length here is the correct length. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 00:46, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
          • I think we should remove the length entirely - it's a guess. --Azizlight 13:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
          • There are some pictures of the Arc Hammer with the Executor and some ISDs on the Tech Comm site. To those of you who have seen the cut scenes, do the ISDs move in front of the AH or behind it? That gives us some guesstimate. VT-16 14:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
            • They are in front of it, the AH is definitely bigger MoffRebus 16:12, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Try looking the 3 pics quickly the one after the other. It will give you an impression. I strongly insist that seems to be about the half of Exec. Btw can we determine the length like 'how many SDs'? MoffRebus 18:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I suppose so. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 18:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Here I've made a collage of two images from SWTC, showing the Arc Hammer with the Ex and some ISDs. Now, from someone who's seen this scene in motion, are all those ISDs closer to the "camera" than the Arc Hammer, or is the furthest one on the second image, behind it? photo bucket dot com )/albums/a242/CptK/arc_hammer.jpg (pic made link by me) VT-16 22:12, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
      • As I said previously: yes, all of them are closer to the camera :) If we name them in the first pic as A, B and C, the second pic shows A (front) and B (far away), so that you guess the distance. MoffRebus 22:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
        • So we have a more accurate size now, correct? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 22:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
          • Yea. Actually I freezed a better frame from the cutscene and I see that SD 'B' fits 6 times the AH, which means that the AH is bigger than 6 SDs. Of course there is a significant distance between the AH and the SD 'B' which makes AH appear much smaller, but this can't be calculated, so the AH is significantly larger than 6 SDs, and definitely longer. MoffRebus 22:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I still think we should remove the speculative length entirely. Since when did we start becoming so lax as to allow guesswork to factor into our articles? We either know the length or we don't, and in this case we don't. --Azizlight 13:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I just want to point out that I think the length of the Arc Hammer may be mislabeled as (km) rather than (m). As cool as a 9,600 km long ship would be, I think it should be 9,600 m. I don't wanna change it myself because I really messed up a page last time I tried to make a change.

anvil

Do we need this paragraph?

Arc Hammer somewhat resembles a flying anvil. This may be related to a previous LucasArts game, Loom, in which an evil priest employed blacksmiths living in an anvil-shaped city to forge swords for his secret project to create an army of the dead. The blacksmiths' anvil-shaped city later levitates into the sky after a cataclysmic event. This is an interesting similarity to Mohc's project to create an army of droid stormtroopers, and that his facility is a starship resembling an anvil.

Indeed, when I firstly saw the AH in a DF cutscene, an anvil came to my mind; but if the creators intended an anvil, they would make it more clear, and add more references to Loom. MoffRebus 21:54, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

It reminded my anon self of an Assault Rifle lacking a handgrip. ````

Manufacterer

Do we have any suggestions as to who manufactured this? Unit 8311 16:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Factory ship

The factory ship article this article links to should probably be renamed since it is from the old Ewoks cartoon, its not really relevant to this article, and a new factory ship article should be created in its place. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 19:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)