I know that we normally don't make articles about individual lightsabers (and with good reason) but I think that this one warrants an exemption to the rules. It's not so much a lightsaber as a religious artifact to the Yuuzhan Vong. -- SFH 17:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I tried to put as much as i could think of but i think we need more. Maybe the picture of Ganner at the World Brain using Anakin's lightsaber. -- MandalorianOrdo54 19:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- Bad idea. Then more lightsaber articles will be created. Mergeto tag is up. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
22:29, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
What other lightsaber has a story behind it like this one besides maybe Anakin Skywalkers lightsaber. MandalorianOrdo54 23:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ones like Lukes etc, but no this needs to be merged. Jedi Dude 17:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- What's wrong with lightsaber articles anyway? They're individual objects; it's not as if they're all the same design or anything. We have articles on the various lightsaber crystals, so why not the weapons themselves? - Kwenn 18:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- I just think that it looks better in the article, examples like Plo Koon's starfighter, it just looks nicer and gives the chracter pages more depth Jedi Dude 18:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- What's wrong with lightsaber articles anyway? They're individual objects; it's not as if they're all the same design or anything. We have articles on the various lightsaber crystals, so why not the weapons themselves? - Kwenn 18:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ones like Lukes etc, but no this needs to be merged. Jedi Dude 17:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Lightsaber or not it did play a major role in the outcome Yuuzhan Vong War. MandalorianOrdo54
- Yes thats established, but does it deserve its own article or need to be merged with Anakin Solo that is what we are discussing. Jedi Dude 20:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Well I made the article because I thought it was more significant than anyother lightsaber and was more than a weapon. Since I made this article I obviously would like it to stay but it isnt up to me i guess. MandalorianOrdo54
- we need a reason more than because its importent, i mean Luke's saber is importent, it defeated Sith lords etc, does that mean it deserves its own article, does Plo Koon's fighter? I think this needs to be merged Jedi Dude 20:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Nope. Again, they're individual objects. I noticed an Emperor Palpatine's personal shuttle article just now, so if that, why not this? In fact, this article is really no different to articles on named vessels, of which we have plenty - Kwenn 21:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, Kwenn, we have articles for individual ships, but not individual items. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
21:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm fully aware of that, but what's the difference? They're both individual, owned examples of a particular product line - Kwenn 21:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Kwenn, come on. We've got rid of lightsaber articles in the past, and this is no different than any of the previous ones. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
21:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- But why have we? Do we have a consensus? - Kwenn 21:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- No, but we should. All of the necessary info can be placed in the owner's article. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
21:31, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ah. Here's another reason why we shouldn't - Kwenn 21:32, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- For the record, I don't think we should have that either. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
21:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- For the record, I don't think we should have that either. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
- Ah. Here's another reason why we shouldn't - Kwenn 21:32, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- No, but we should. All of the necessary info can be placed in the owner's article. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
- But why have we? Do we have a consensus? - Kwenn 21:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Kwenn, come on. We've got rid of lightsaber articles in the past, and this is no different than any of the previous ones. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
- I'm fully aware of that, but what's the difference? They're both individual, owned examples of a particular product line - Kwenn 21:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, Kwenn, we have articles for individual ships, but not individual items. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
- Nope. Again, they're individual objects. I noticed an Emperor Palpatine's personal shuttle article just now, so if that, why not this? In fact, this article is really no different to articles on named vessels, of which we have plenty - Kwenn 21:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- we need a reason more than because its importent, i mean Luke's saber is importent, it defeated Sith lords etc, does that mean it deserves its own article, does Plo Koon's fighter? I think this needs to be merged Jedi Dude 20:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
What is so wrong with it though? yea maybe other articles about specific weapons will come up but you tell me MandalorianOrdo54
- It's the fact that we shouldn't have an article on every person's lightsaber when we can have that information in those people's articles. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
21:43, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- See also: Wookieepedia:Votes for deletion/Plo Koon's Delta-7 Aethersprite-class starfighter. -LtNOWIS 21:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Plo Koon's starfighter, unlike Palpatine's shuttle, wasn't modified. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
22:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Plo Koon's starfighter, unlike Palpatine's shuttle, wasn't modified. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Data file)
- See also: Wookieepedia:Votes for deletion/Plo Koon's Delta-7 Aethersprite-class starfighter. -LtNOWIS 21:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
If I may chime in on the merging topic, it was mentioned that the lightsaber was seen as sort of a religious artifact to the Vong but I didn't get any sense of that from reading the article itself, now the problem arises that by expanding this article to explain that Anakin's lightsaber is indeed an important artifact we would need to explain how Anakin the person became so important to the Vong themselves, and of course that should all ready be covered in Anakin Solo's main article. So for the sake of ease and flow as well as making sure there isn't a massive amount of repeated information, I really think this article would do well to be placed within Anakin's main article. Just my $0.02 though.-Jadden Sinn 22:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- And Plo Koon's fighter was merged with Plo Koon, im not saying delete this, place it in Anakin's article. Imagine the amount of articles created without point if we created an article for everything, all those lightsabers, ships, everything, its pointless.
Discussion in senate hall, place your votes. Forum:Objects, an issue needing sorting. Jedi Dude 23:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)