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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was No consensus. Default to keep. Grunny (talk) 15:48, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
Vader's apprentice (disambiguation) (talk - history - links - logs)
Pretty useless now that Vader's apprentice has got a name. Furthermore, I wouldn't call all of them "Vader's apprentice". No one out there types "Vader's apprentice" in the search box to get to the Ahsoka Tano article.
Delete
- Pranay Sobusk ~ Talk 13:28, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Strong delete. If we really need to keep all these people categorized under one category, then make a category for Vader's apprentices. But I don't really see the point for this list. I mean, do we need to have a list for all of Luke Skywalker's apprentices? Or Yoda's apprentices? Or Palpatine's apprentices? I don't think so. So why Vader's? Also, per Pranay: I doubt anybody will type "Vader's apprentice" in the search box to get to any article other than Galen's. Jonjedigrandmaster
(We seed the stars) 17:49, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Everybody don't know his name. --Xd 17:58, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I know: that's why I said "I doubt anybody will type "Vader's apprentice" in the search box to get to any article other than Galen's." Which means we can leave it as a redirect to Galen, if that's what people prefer. Jonjedigrandmaster (We seed the stars) 18:00, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I misread it. I still think, though, that a disambig page should exist, just incase. I also said that Vader's apprentice should redirect to Marek, not the disambig page. --Xd 18:16, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I know: that's why I said "I doubt anybody will type "Vader's apprentice" in the search box to get to any article other than Galen's." Which means we can leave it as a redirect to Galen, if that's what people prefer. Jonjedigrandmaster
- Everybody don't know his name. --Xd 17:58, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Pointless, and it needs reorganizing. If anything, redirect it to Marek. JangFett (Talk) 23:11, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm an idiot. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:34, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:35, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Grunny (talk) 23:37, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Really rather unnecessary. CC7567 (talk) 23:49, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Per Jon's last comment below. Darth Shohet 21:28, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
Keep
- I agree Ahsoka should be removed, but the rest were trained by him after he became Vader. I see the point about them not being official apprentices, but it's close enough unless we move it to Vader's student (disabiguation) which just seems pointless. - JMAS
Hey, it's me! 13:34, March 17, 2010 (UTC) - Per JMAS. Though I'd like to see that "Vader's apprentice" would redirect to Galen Marek, not to the disambiguation page as most people searching for Vader's apprentice are probably searching for Marek. --Xd 13:44, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Per Xd. Slap a {{Youmay}} on Marek to point to here. Nayayen—TALK 13:51, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Per all above. —Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 21:11, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
- While I don't disagree with the idea of adding a category for these people, I do think somebody could be looking for Lumiya, or Tao, or Tremayne (who should be a bullet as well, correct?) when searching on the term. Also, per all above. - Esjs(Talk) 22:38, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
- In the off-chance that they could be looking for someone else, we could keep Darth Vader's apprentice a redirect to Galen's page, and stick a {{rhere}} template on it. Jonjedigrandmaster
(We seed the stars) 22:51, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Whether we use the {{Youmay}} or {{Rhere}} (or both?) on Galen Marek, the 2nd parameter should be the disambig page. Listing all of those people in either template would not be a great approach. - Esjs(Talk) 03:35, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- That's a good point. However, this is all rendered unnecessary if we just have a category for "Vader's apprentices"—or, better yet, "Anakin Skywalker's apprentices," and include all of his apprentices from both his time as a Jedi and his time as a Sith. The point is, it's the same reason we purged tons of other lists; categories are simply cleaner and more effective. Jonjedigrandmaster (We seed the stars) 17:57, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- To make a category for this instead of a disambig page is rather unnecessary. For that matter, we'd need to have categories for Luke & Yoda's apprentices too, and whoever else there was who had a thousand plus apprentices.—Tommy 9281 18:37, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- And if we look at it that way, then we'd also need disambig lists for Luke's & Yoda's and everyone else's apprentices if we keep this one. And a bunch of disambiguation lists would be a lot messier and a lot less likely to remain updated than categories for the same. Although I personally don't believe a category is necessary either—if someone want's to find "Darth Vader's apprentice," then they can go to Darth Vader's page and look at his list of apprentices in the infobox—I simply suggested it as a cleaner alternative to the current disambig list. Jonjedigrandmaster (We seed the stars) 18:43, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- And if we look at it that way, then we'd also need disambig lists for Luke's & Yoda's and everyone else's apprentices if we keep this one. And a bunch of disambiguation lists would be a lot messier and a lot less likely to remain updated than categories for the same. Although I personally don't believe a category is necessary either—if someone want's to find "Darth Vader's apprentice," then they can go to Darth Vader's page and look at his list of apprentices in the infobox—I simply suggested it as a cleaner alternative to the current disambig list. Jonjedigrandmaster
- To make a category for this instead of a disambig page is rather unnecessary. For that matter, we'd need to have categories for Luke & Yoda's apprentices too, and whoever else there was who had a thousand plus apprentices.—Tommy 9281 18:37, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- That's a good point. However, this is all rendered unnecessary if we just have a category for "Vader's apprentices"—or, better yet, "Anakin Skywalker's apprentices," and include all of his apprentices from both his time as a Jedi and his time as a Sith. The point is, it's the same reason we purged tons of other lists; categories are simply cleaner and more effective. Jonjedigrandmaster
- Whether we use the {{Youmay}} or {{Rhere}} (or both?) on Galen Marek, the 2nd parameter should be the disambig page. Listing all of those people in either template would not be a great approach. - Esjs(Talk) 03:35, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- In the off-chance that they could be looking for someone else, we could keep Darth Vader's apprentice a redirect to Galen's page, and stick a {{rhere}} template on it. Jonjedigrandmaster
- Ahsoka's presence on this page is just tomfoolery for the obvious reasons, but the rest of them are legit, so I believe this is a worthwhile resource to have.—Tommy 9281 23:15, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Per JMAS and Tommy. Dr. Kermit(Complain.) 23:46, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Per Xd, Nayayen, and Tommy. This disambig page isn't any worse than the 1,000+ others that we have, and I can't say that I would consider this a list similar to the other lists we have purged. "Vader's apprentice" should redirect to Galen Marek and a {{Youmay}} should point to this page. Cylka-talk- 18:26, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
- above ASDF1239-DISCUSSION- 01:29, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
