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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was no consensus. 1358 (Talk) 17:08, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Tenel Ka Djo's lightsaber (talk - history - links - logs)

This was originally up for verification. A source was provided. Thus, it goes up for the trash compactor per this.

I don't believe this warrants an article. This could very easily be covered in the Tenel Ka Djo article; I don't see anything here that would make it warrant its own page.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 16:40, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Delete

  1. —Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 16:40, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Agreed, that's why I initially flagged it for deletion. The uniqueness of its handle can easily be put into the main article, no need to for a separate article. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 17:07, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
  3. To me, arguments of 'uniqueness' mean exactly zero; it's still just a freakin' stick that has a lightsaber blade come out the end of it. I'm 100% in favour of deleting all 'owner's lightsaber' articles and merging them into the individual's personal equipment. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 10:53, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure I understand why we should do that. We shouldn't use a blanket statement that allows us to TC every lightsaber article regardless of its quality and notability. Jolee Bindo's lightsaber is not worth Palpatine's lightsaber! The fate of lightsaber articles should be decided on a case-by-case basis. Furthermore, we could apply your reasoning to personal starships and other vehicles, after all! It does not seem that anyone is willing to make a fuss about articles such as Fixer's landspeeder... --LelalMekha (talk) 11:17, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
      • Personal starships are not the same as lightsabers. They're a conveyance that belongs to someone temporarily before passing to someone else, has a unique manufacturing history before its named owner, etc etc. A lightsaber is part of a Jedi's personal history and training. Moreover, the lightsaber articles you posted only serve to underscore exactly what I'm saying: the Jolee article is useless and belongs in the Jolee article, and the Palps lightsaber article is a complete disaster in its own right. Its intro is wordy rambling and its "history" is Palps's history; and then it has a whole section of stuff which is not actually about the article's subject. All of that belongs in the Palpatine article under equipment. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 14:16, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
        • Back in the day, even the Official Star Wars Fact File had articles about personal lightsabers, and some of them were even less informative than ours can be. If it's good enough for an official source, it should be good enough for us unless we want to be more catholic than the Pope. --LelalMekha (talk) 14:22, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
          • They didn't function with standards of notability. They ran with the question "What factoids can I put in here to make fans want to buy this?" That they thought information on lightsabers would be of interest to us has no bearing on us having specific articles on lightsabers that have no specific histories. The info should be in the characters article. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 02:33, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Not notable. It's a damn glowstick like all the others. The tooth is as noteworthy as an iPod case. That Ka wanted hers to have that shell is something to note in her article. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 02:29, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Never been a fan of lightsaber articles. Pretty much per Digi. All the info in the lightsaber's article should already be in the character's article anyway. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 23:45, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Keep

  1. I would argue that this is unique enough for its own article. How many other lightsabers are made out of a rancor tooth? —MJ— Council Chambers 17:06, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
  2. The article in its current state is quite poor, but I thinks this lightsaber has an interesting history. After all, the first version of is lightsaber was the cause of Tenel Ka losing her arm! It also symbolize Tenel Ka's reconciliation with her mixed heritage (the rancor tooth for Dathomir, the rainbow gems for Hapes). In Young Jedi Knights: Lightsabers, the creation of Tenel Ka's lightsaber is an important element within the narrative. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:09, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
  3. One of the most unique lightsabers there is, and one of the few on which I would vote keep. Menkooroo (talk) 23:42, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Definitely agreed. Corellian PremierRobotechAll along the watchtower 01:52, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
  5. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 01:55, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
  6. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:15, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
  7. Per MJ.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 15:00, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
  8. Doctor Kermit(Complain.) 02:31, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
  9. DarthRevan1173 Revan Headshot (Long live Lord Revan) 02:33, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
  10. Clearly notable, probably the most notable EU character saber beyond Anakin Solo's lightsaber. jSarek (talk) 07:29, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

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