Forum:TC:Fan fiction (second nomination)

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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was redirect to fanon. 1358 (Talk) 21:33, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Fan fiction (talk - history - links - logs)

I know that this article was put in the trash compactor before, but I think that perhaps this page should still be redirected to fanon.

  • My first point is that fanon and fan fiction seem like the same thing. I would question what the fanon page says about fan fiction which says that "Fan fiction (also spelled fanfiction and often abbreviated to fanfic) is a fiction written by fans that takes place in the Star Wars universe. Such fiction is never regarded as canon." I always thought that fanon is just an abbreviation of fan fiction. I know that I do not have any sources for that, but the articles do not have any references anyway.
  • Even if one argues that fanon and fan fiction are not the same thing, I would think that to prove a difference they would need to provide references. Neither the fanon or fan fiction article have any references at all.
  • The fan fiction page has a great many external links to fan fiction that should not be there, and I cannot figure out why the quote from Legacy of the Force: Betrayal is there either.
  • The fanon page already includes most if not all of the information on the fan fiction page.
  • I would also claim that we do not need a page on Wookieepedia about fan fiction. I don't see a purpose being served by it, while the fanon page is necessary as a warning page.

In short, the fan fiction page doesn't add anything at all to the wiki, and it seems to already be represented in another more worthy article.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 18:47, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Redirect to fanon

  1. As the nominator (oops! I forgot to do this earlier...)--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 23:09, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Yup. Maybe give fanon a sub-heading specifically about fanfics, but two different articles doesn't seem right. Menkooroo
  3. Definitely. Per everything above. I, too, always believed that "fanon" was just a way of saying "fan canon" (or fan fiction).--Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 01:28, December 31, 2011 (UTC)
  4. sounds about right<-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 01:38, December 31, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Heh, the fanon page has a better explanation of fan fiction than the fan fiction does. Corellian PremierRobotechAll along the watchtower 02:47, December 31, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Clone Commander Lee Talk 14:28, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  7. Hmm, no source... looks like fanon to me. DD97Which bear is best? 14:37, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
  8. Honestly, I think the redirect should be the other way around, but we can debate that once they're consolidated. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 15:25, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
  9. Per Culator. Master Jon Training Room Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 17:48 UTC
  10. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever)
  11. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 20:04, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
  12. Per Culator. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 19:25, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
  13. Whatever gets redirected, whenever, to wherever. Or, send them my way to SWFanon. Our entry on fanon and fan fiction is considered to actually be more concise and encyclopedic! XD Trak Nar Ramble on 20:46, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
  14. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:16, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Keep

Delete

Imperialles 20:04, January 3, 2012 (UTC) (Vote struck, reason: Per policy: User blocked -- Master Jon Council Chambers Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 21:41 UTC)

Discussion

  • At the very least I believe that some of the external links should be cut.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 18:47, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
  • Wow, the fanon article just got the verify template placed on it for being possible fanon. Although that seems rather amusing, this does affect our discussion here. What does everyone thing of this development?--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 20:14, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
    • Being the person who tagged it, I'm clarifying my reasons: it was for total failure to adhere to WP:ATT, WP:S, WP:C and WP:RS. TK999 20:19, January 3, 2012 (UTC)