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The result of the debate was keep with explanations.—Silly Dan (talk) 01:18, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Duel on Ruusan (talk - history - links - logs)
Alright. For the last couple of days, I was reading Darth Bane: Rule of Two and finished it. I was also, at the same time, contributing with the new characters, vehicles, mentions, etc. as I read, making a whole bunch of new articles from this new book. Now, the reason I say to delete this is simple: It never happened. Someone misinterpreted the reference (from Wizards of the Coast) and thought there was to be a duel in 990 BBY between Darth Zannah and her cousin Darovit. Well, they were wrong.
The only confrontation (as in a "fight") between the two was in 1000 BBY when Darovit tried to "defend" Zannah from Darth Bane; Zannah, to protect Darovit from Bane slaughtering him, she blows up his hand with the Force. Later, they meet again, but there was never any confrontation or "deadly" duel. So please just delete this already, damnit. At the end of the book, Zannah kills Caleb and uses her Sith sorcery to drive Darovit mad (she already displayed that specific power several times throughout the book) and she is able to hide from the Jedi; this all happened on Ambria, so if it could "arguably" be called a duel (lol, no wai) then it wouldn't be on Ruusan. She never fights or duels him at all, so please, delete it.
- No, this information was well-established prior to the publication of Rule of Two. Drew Karpyshyn failed to follow existing continuity, however, so this event does not seem to fit anywhere. For the record, the original reference was very specific.
Another was the Sith Lord Darth Zannah, who returned to the valley years after abandoning her brother there during the Battle of Ruusan and engaged her sibling in a final deadly confrontation..
"Returned" - in other words, went back to Ruusan, and engaged her sibling in a final deadly confrontation. No "confusion" about the matter. Karpyshyn just overrode existing canon. QuentinGeorge 01:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Either way, it didn't happen in Rule of Two, and it can't, since, oh yeah, Darovit is dead. And, obviously, Wizards doesn't know it's canon stuff: Darovit and Zannah (Tomcat and Rain, if you prefer it that way) are cousins, not siblings. Victor (talk) 02:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete
- Reasons above. Victor (talk) 06:21, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- He's dead, Jim. Din's Fire 997 03:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Imperialles 03:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep
- It's a perfectly legitimate canon source which has unfortunately been contradicted by a recent text. Doesn't mean we delete the page. QuentinGeorge 01:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- What QG wrote. KEJ 14:06, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- Per above. Unit 8311 15:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep per QG, but with warning templates (the "two versions", "cut material", or "never happened except in alternate versions of the story" warnings might be appropriate.) —Silly Dan (talk) 04:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep per QG, with the "two conflicting" template, or even better, a footnote explaining the problem. Thefourdotelipsis 08:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Per QG. Unless LFL/Chee have made a particular statement to the opposite effect, the WOTC source is as canon as Rule of Two. - Lord Hydronium 09:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)