Forum:TC:Category:Andowyne

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The result of the debate was no consensus, kept. Atarumaster88 ^{(Talk page)} 15:54, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Category:Andowyne and everything in it ([[Talk:Category:Andowyne|talk]] - history - links - logs)

Since practically everyone on another TC thread is saying that the Shadow War Chronicles articles should all be merged into Willow, why shouldn't this precedent apply to other articles about the same subject? As jSarek said, "All of these are part of the Willowverse; they should all be covered by that article." This should apply to everything about Willow IMO. Master Jonathan^{Jedi Council Chambers} 00:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

• On a closer look, Thorn Drumheller has some info that could be merged into the TPM Bts, though I still don't think it should be kept as his TPM appearance is covered by Weazel. It might be better to redirect Thorn to Weazel instead of Willow, though. Master Jonathan^{Jedi Council Chambers} 00:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Merge/redirect everything into Willow (except Thorn Drumheller, which will redirect to Weazel) and delete category

1. Master Jonathan^{Jedi Council Chambers} 00:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
2. —Silly Dan _(talk) 00:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
3. Mauser^Comlink 02:32, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
4. IFYLOFD ^{(You will pay the price for your lack of vision!)} 02:57, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
5. - Esjs^(Talk) 22:57, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
6. Imperialles 23:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
7. I wasn't fully sure about this decision, but per Master Jonathan's comment below. Pranay Sobusk ~ Talk 19:41, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
8. Not the Willow Wiki. Feel free to start one by pressing one button, as I've heard is now possible. Graestan^(Talk) 22:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
9. Jonjedigrandmaster ^(Jujiggum) 22:45, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Keep

1. Despite my reservations about our wiki containing an article about Willow itself, because it was not released under the Star Wars license, the in-universe subjects contained in Category:Andowyne appeared in a Databank update, which was licensed, and they therefore merit their own articles. As for the merge of Thorn Drumheller and Weazel, I'm kind of skeptical given what looks to me like ambiguous wording regarding the matter in Drumheller's Databank entry.--Muuuuuurgh 02:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
2. Per Mauser. They were given in-universe (albeit Infinities in-universe) pages on The Official Site, therefore they belong here. jSarek 07:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
   • Wait, I'm confused, don't you mean per Muuuuuurgh? Cyfiero 06:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
     • I think I was the confused one. Yes, per M(u^6)rgh. jSarek 16:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
3. I'm for a keep on this one, since I have been planning to try and GA Andowyne as it's part of the Kathol sector and can technically fall under the aegis of my DarkStryder project. - Cavalier One^{(Squadron channel)} 11:49, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
4. --Darth tom (Imperial Intelligence) 11:14, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
5. My brain hurts. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 23:36, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
6. Databank appearance, canonical or not. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:41, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
7. Per Culator. Cyfiero 06:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
8. LtNOWIS 18:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
9. Per Muuuuuurgh. --Eyrezer 08:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
10. ^Jorrel_Fraajic 16:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments

• Previous discussion: Wookieepedia:Votes for deletion/Category:Willow.

• Databank appearance or not, we should get rid of these. Yes, we keep non-canon information, however there is a difference between officially licensed stuff originally released under the Star Wars banner, and stuff (i.e. Willow) that was released as something completely separate and whose only relation to Star Wars is a two-day joke that occurred eighteen years after it was released. Do we really need ten articles and a category for a two-day joke??? Come on. Merge and redirect, and get rid of this joke. Master Jonathan^{Jedi Council Chambers} 19:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Do we really need articles on Tag and Bink and all the other articles on things that come from their comics, who are also not canon because their entire existence is meant as a joke? Do we really need articles like Jean-Luc Picard, U.S.S. Enterprise-D, or Starfleet Academy, which don't even have the benefit of being in an unambiguously official source? jSarek 07:54, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
    • Tag and Bink are from non-canon, but nevertheless licensed source. About the Star Trek articles... I'd say yes, they all should be merged into Star Trek aritcle, although I will not start such TC myself. Mauser^Comlink 08:13, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
      • The Willow Databank articles are also non-canon but nevertheless licensed sources. jSarek 08:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
        • What Databank articles? I sure as heck can't find them. They were taken down after the joke ended and more importantly, unlike everything else you mentioned, they were intended only as a joke. That's why I want these gone—purely because they were, and still are, nothing more than a joke. Master Jonathan^{Jedi Council Chambers} 19:08, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
          • No, they were taken down when the entire Star Wars site was redesigned, a redesign that took down countless other sources we still cite on Wookieepedia. Articles like Hoszh Iszhir and Jiaasjen are also solely cited from articles that were taken down during that redesign, but no one is suggesting we delete them. And again, Tag and Bink are intended only as a joke, but no one is suggesting they be deleted, either. jSarek 21:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
            • Because unlike Willow, Tag and Bink was originally released not purely as a joke, but rather as officially licensed sources under the Infinities banner. Willow, on the other hand, was released as a completely separate entity and remained that way for eighteen years. The Databank entries, irrelevant of when they were taken down, were intended as a joke. There's your difference—Tag and Bink was released as officially licensed non-canon; Willow was released as something totally separate and has no relevance to Star Wars except a joke. Master Jonathan^{Jedi Council Chambers} 04:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
              • Easy on the bold Jon. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:41, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
              • [1], [2], [3], [4], etc. -LtNOWIS 20:30, 6 June 2009 (UTC)