OK, let's just get this right out there. In the Star Wars RPG, Ultimate Alien Anthology, etc., every race comes with "Example" names. These aren't actual characters, they're just examples of what names of that particular race kinda sound like, although sometimes the list includes a few real names from the movies or EU books. Now, it seems every month or so, someone comes along and starts adding these names to the 'pedia. This is so lazy. And all the entries are the same. Zanvost, Luzura etc. are examples of this. There are so many actual characters from the RPG books that haven't been added, but of course, that would take actual effort and doesn't just mean typing "Goober was a Gooberputz," source Ultimate Alien Anthology. #growl# And I guess the question is, do these count? I'd say the only solution that comes to mind is just include every single one of these names, then redirect them to the species in question, and hopefully that'll stop lazy folk from going back and doing it all over again. Enochf 21:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, I'm visiting my roommates this weekend, and they have a copy of the UAA. If I can borrow it, then I can start the long, tedious process of adding every single bloody name in that book and redirecting it to the species. This is kinda like whoever redirected every single fake character that SuperShadow made up to the main SuperShadow article. But that leaves plenty of time for somebody else that actually has the book to start. Enochf 22:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, a lot (perhaps even a majority) of those "example names" are real names drawn from other sources. I'd be extremely cautious making redirects out of them. jSarek 02:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Being the whateverist that I am (sorry I just can't be bothered keeping up with all the isms of wikipedia), I think that since all those example names appear in canonical sources, they should be documented in this wiki. Either the relevant species article sould contain a list of example names, or each name should have its own article saying 'X is a male/female/whatever name in Y culture'. Another option is to make a list of example names from RPG material as a separate article. In any case, they should be documented. KEJ 09:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed with both jSarek and KEJ. Whether they are real characters or simply made-up names, the information itself is canonical. As long as everyone carefully makes sure that each name they work on is just that- only a name- redirecting them all to a list of example names would be good, and at least there would be a placeholder there so that we don't go through and vfd every single one to have someone recreate them later, but we would have a distinction between stubs of characters and a record of potential names. Wildyoda 17:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Only a name, yeah, but like I said, the lazy writers always add it in the same format. "Billy was a Human," "Xuxwux was a Vulgazaxxin," "Argh-Stop-It was a Really-I-Mean-It," blah-blah-blah. "X was a Y name" wouldn't bug me nearly as much. Oh, and BTW, the books do not make clear which names are male and female (which actually might be useful), nor do they even make it clear which names are taken from actual SW sources and which ones were rolled up on random name generators at Wizards of the Coast. Anyway, like I said, I'll try and get my hands on the UAA book this weekend and maybe straighten this out, and the best way I can think of is to add a "Examples of ______ names" section in the appropriate species article, whatever it might be, Noghri, Kel Dor, Yuzzum, then add the rest of the names as redirects. On the off-chance some comic or EU source gets around to creating a character with that name, it can be rewritten, but hopefully we won't have to deal with anymore "Jojo was a Muun" articles. Enochf 17:43, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- "...who thought he was a woman" ;). I agree that an "Examples" section on relevant species pages would be useful, and better than creating one-line articles - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 17:45, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Whoa ^_^ Yeah, I've had this talk before with others: User talk:Rune Haako is where "Jojo was a Muun" comes from. Oddly enough, in the EU, Jojo was a HoloNet charater on a soap opera... he could very well be a Muun who thought he was a woman. Enochf 17:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Since I am an whateverist (whatever that is), I don't mindt one-line articles. I just think that if it's in a canonical source, it should be documented here, preferably in its own article (even if it means that it's a one-liner), but in this case, I think a list article might be just as useful. In any case, as I said, if it's there and the source is canonical, thee information should be documented here. KEJ 09:14, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- "...who thought he was a woman" ;). I agree that an "Examples" section on relevant species pages would be useful, and better than creating one-line articles - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 17:45, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Only a name, yeah, but like I said, the lazy writers always add it in the same format. "Billy was a Human," "Xuxwux was a Vulgazaxxin," "Argh-Stop-It was a Really-I-Mean-It," blah-blah-blah. "X was a Y name" wouldn't bug me nearly as much. Oh, and BTW, the books do not make clear which names are male and female (which actually might be useful), nor do they even make it clear which names are taken from actual SW sources and which ones were rolled up on random name generators at Wizards of the Coast. Anyway, like I said, I'll try and get my hands on the UAA book this weekend and maybe straighten this out, and the best way I can think of is to add a "Examples of ______ names" section in the appropriate species article, whatever it might be, Noghri, Kel Dor, Yuzzum, then add the rest of the names as redirects. On the off-chance some comic or EU source gets around to creating a character with that name, it can be rewritten, but hopefully we won't have to deal with anymore "Jojo was a Muun" articles. Enochf 17:43, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed with both jSarek and KEJ. Whether they are real characters or simply made-up names, the information itself is canonical. As long as everyone carefully makes sure that each name they work on is just that- only a name- redirecting them all to a list of example names would be good, and at least there would be a placeholder there so that we don't go through and vfd every single one to have someone recreate them later, but we would have a distinction between stubs of characters and a record of potential names. Wildyoda 17:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Being the whateverist that I am (sorry I just can't be bothered keeping up with all the isms of wikipedia), I think that since all those example names appear in canonical sources, they should be documented in this wiki. Either the relevant species article sould contain a list of example names, or each name should have its own article saying 'X is a male/female/whatever name in Y culture'. Another option is to make a list of example names from RPG material as a separate article. In any case, they should be documented. KEJ 09:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, a lot (perhaps even a majority) of those "example names" are real names drawn from other sources. I'd be extremely cautious making redirects out of them. jSarek 02:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)