Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne is said to be in 3630 BBY because of "{{TOR_updates|5.0}}", which states:
"According to 
Forums: Dear Story Team, What Year Are We Currently In? on The Old Republic's official website (backup link), the events of Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne and Game Updates released in 2016 can be placed in 3630 BBY."
Eternal Throne came out in late 2016. The phrase "the events depicted in post-launch Game Updates can be assumed to occur in a timeline matching that of their real-time release." would indicate that assuming everything released for TOR since the base 5.0 expansion is set in 3630 BBY is incorrect, since content updates have been far and few between in the three years since release.
Such events are the Uprising missions, the War on Iokath, the Order of Zildrog campaign, the Crisis on Umbara (it's the name of the in-game mission but likely not the actual event, so this should probably be renamed), the Mission to Copero, the Gods of the Machine Operation, the Mission to Nathema (Zildrog), the Invasion of Ossus, and soon the Dantooine Incursion, along with other smaller events mentioned here and there.
I'd say it's a fair bet that from the Battle of Zakuul to the Dantooine Incursion, just one year does not pass, as for all we know the Battle of Zakuul took place on the very last day of 3630 BBY. This argument could be supported (but not gain any real basis for determining "canon") in the fact that the Order of Zildrog had a substantial amount of power, too much to have gained in less than a year, and Theron Shan had been aware of it for quite a long time prior to the War on Iokath, so it can be determined right away that Iokath is not shortly or directly after the final chapter of KOTET.
The purpose of this thread is to discuss this issue and hopefully come to a conclusion on how to handle post-5.0 KOTET content. Fan26 (Talk) 14:21, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
- I think I should clarify that by "far and few between" I meant there's been quite some time between them. Think it sounds confusing. Fan26 (Talk) 14:29, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
- I'd have to agree that time has progressed; the only question is how much. --Rakhsh (talk) 14:34, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
- I may be a bit confused but the whole "the events depicted in post-launch Game Updates can be assumed to occur in a timeline matching that of their real-time release." referred to events prior to Knights of the Fallen Empire. After that, it clearly no longer applies as KotFE and KotET events are set in a year time, as stated in-game (the whole "6 years have passed since you disappeared"). As for updates post-KotET, unfortunately we cannot assume how long has passed unless we can get something from someone working the game. That's what the "circa" is for. We don't assume years unless there's proof. If we don't know how long, we apply the circa to whatever year we know and that's 3630 BBY (c.3630 BBY). But still, it would be cool if we got something from the lead team. Winterz (talk) 15:58, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
- That was Cade's reasoning, and he applied it to some post-KOTFE content as well (the rest of it was dated through assumptions based on in-game dialogue). If we get someone to tweet Charles Boyd for us, that should be asked about too I guess. Fan26 (Talk) 16:26, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
- As time is established in-game regarding KOTFE up to the end of KOTET, I believe it's safe to overwrite anything Cade did that contradicts this. There's no need for consensus. I can provide a source if you want to write up a reference template, mate. Winterz (talk) 16:47, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
- That would be good. I think I was a bit wrong-some of what Cade wrote was just to establish dates for when KOTFE began, but that would be great, thanks! Fan26 (Talk) 16:58, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
- I forgot about this. So here it goes:
- - The base storyline is stated to be 2 years long (for all classes). Pretty sure we have a Twitter statement source somewhere (but SWTOR Encyclopedia also states it)
- - According to Boyd's timeline, after that base storyline we have 47 months or so (almost 4 years) of real=in-universe time up to 4.0 KOTFE.
- - KOTFE had the player locked for 5 years in carbonite freezing
- - We know that the KOTFE and KOTET stories together lasted about a year because Companions after the KOTET story say it has been 6 years since the Outlander disappeared.
- - The companion Andronikos Revel, picked in the update 5.9 Nathema Conspiracy, still states these 6 years date since the carbonite freezing.
- - According to my math, that's 6 years up to the KOTFE story's start and more 6 years until 5.9. That makes it 12 years approximately (all dates in SWTOR are approximate/circa because we have no specific dating). 12 years since the established c.3643 is around 3631 BBY. But then again the whole 3643 could've been 3642 BBY so it would be 3630 BBY. Anyway, this is my input. Winterz (talk) 01:09, April 15, 2019 (UTC)
- I forgot about this. So here it goes:
- That would be good. I think I was a bit wrong-some of what Cade wrote was just to establish dates for when KOTFE began, but that would be great, thanks! Fan26 (Talk) 16:58, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
- As time is established in-game regarding KOTFE up to the end of KOTET, I believe it's safe to overwrite anything Cade did that contradicts this. There's no need for consensus. I can provide a source if you want to write up a reference template, mate. Winterz (talk) 16:47, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
- That was Cade's reasoning, and he applied it to some post-KOTFE content as well (the rest of it was dated through assumptions based on in-game dialogue). If we get someone to tweet Charles Boyd for us, that should be asked about too I guess. Fan26 (Talk) 16:26, April 10, 2019 (UTC)
- That sounds accurate and based on actual game information, at least the KOTFE-KOTET info. I think its safe to change it--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 05:35, April 15, 2019 (UTC)
- Would this change the reasoning of Template:TOR dates? Fan26 (Talk) 14:54, April 15, 2019 (UTC)
- I'm still confused about what you're proposing. Winterz (talk) 22:54, April 15, 2019 (UTC)
- I'm asking if TORdates needs to be changed based on what you've outlined above. Fan26 (Talk) 12:58, April 16, 2019 (UTC)
- But TORdates isn't related to what I outlined. That reference was influenced by something not SWTOR game. I only know game stuff. I'm truly unsure. Winterz (talk) 18:09, April 16, 2019 (UTC)
- Does " The base storyline is stated to be 2 years long (for all classes). Pretty sure we have a Twitter statement source somewhere (but SWTOR Encyclopedia also states it)" contradict TORdates' reasoning of 6643 BBY- 3641 BBY? I can't tell. Fan26 (Talk) 12:59, April 17, 2019 (UTC)
- I truly am confused. I thought your problem was with the 3630 BBY date or that you wanted to imply the story since KOTET's end had taken longer than a year. Regardless, the 3643 BBY to 3641 BBY cannot be contradicted if we're talking late 3643 to early 3641 BBY. I don't think there's a need for change there. Winterz (talk) 22:57, April 17, 2019 (UTC)
- Does " The base storyline is stated to be 2 years long (for all classes). Pretty sure we have a Twitter statement source somewhere (but SWTOR Encyclopedia also states it)" contradict TORdates' reasoning of 6643 BBY- 3641 BBY? I can't tell. Fan26 (Talk) 12:59, April 17, 2019 (UTC)
- But TORdates isn't related to what I outlined. That reference was influenced by something not SWTOR game. I only know game stuff. I'm truly unsure. Winterz (talk) 18:09, April 16, 2019 (UTC)
- I'm asking if TORdates needs to be changed based on what you've outlined above. Fan26 (Talk) 12:58, April 16, 2019 (UTC)
- I'm still confused about what you're proposing. Winterz (talk) 22:54, April 15, 2019 (UTC)