So...are there any instances of them NOT being cannon fodder? I mean it just seems kinda a waste to train these supposed elite guys, when the Galactic Empire could try something different. I just would like to know, if there are any instances where...they are actually shown as being good and valuable, quotes welcome too and so forth.—Unsigned comment by Wolfscar45 (talk • contribs)
- First of all, please sign your posts with ~~~~ as it helps us know who wrote what. Secondly, if you want examples of "good" (which can be an subjective term) stormtroopers, I would suggest you check out the novel Allegiance or look at the article on the Hand of Judgment. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 16:07, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
Alright, much appreciated and sorry bout that. First time Doing that, though I fixed it in my other one. Wolfscar45 (talk)
- Here's a good example: Soontir Fel and the 181st from the X-wing comics. And the Biggs Darklighter arc from Star Wars: Empire. And arguably Colonel Bircher from the ongoing Star Wars (Dark Horse 2013) comics. There's also the video game TIE fighter, where players take the perspective of Maarek Stele. Corellian Premier
The Force will be with you always 16:43, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
- Just look at what transpired at the battle of Yavin in the original movie. Luke and Wedge were basically the only two fighters that made it out alive. Had Luke not made the one in a million shot and Han and Chewie knocking Vader off course, they would probably be toast as well. Mind you, I can never understand why an X-wing or an ARC-170 can't just jump to light speed when a bogie is on his tail.Ghostly Menace (talk) 21:47, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
- As Han says in the New Hope jumping to lightspeed isn't that easy. You need the calculations, speed and correct vector to jump safely. And doing calculations or staying on a vector during a dogfight is hard. And X-wing can't jump to hyperspace with its S-foils locked for battle mode.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 04:24, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Stormies seemed to do quite a good job taking over the Tantive IV. Then again, it was probably the only instance where their armor actually blended with their environment... StarsiderSWG (talk) 22:10, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
- Everyone has this misconception from their own sense as fans. Unfortunately, it has effected our EU continuity. Stormtroopers are always shooting Rebels who are on the run. Blasters are clumsy and random. This isn't a canon answer, but it holds true mostly. Stormtrooper rounds a corner, Leia blasts them square in the chest while waiting for the soldier to catch up, and then her worshipfulness enters a turbolift. Running and shooting sometimes are two different things, especially with armor on. Generally the blaster shoots funky for either side, and stormtroopers are chasing the enemy. They stay in cover, pin down the Rebels, and get shot trying to charge their opponents to break the line and apprehend them. A two hundred year old Wookiee Warrior, two Force-sensitive twins, Han Solo, greatest gunslinger in the galaxy, Lando, Han's buddy, which gives him credit, and if majority opinion did not hate the idea of Divine Providence I could bring up the fact destiny and the prophecy of the chosen one carved some of these events. When the Force gives a prediction that everything is going to be okay, it explains a lot.
Stormtroopers aren't defective. They fallback to a training room to lure and overwhelm Han Solo in IV. On the Tantive IV and Endor they fight strong until an arrow pierces their body glove or a forest full of Ewoks tackle them. Rebels do hit-and-run, guerrilla warfare, they try to avoid the enemy and get around them. They are even more creative than clones. But notice the Rebels never stick around for a long engagement, even at some of the toughest battles. That's my take. I don't know about yours. But Take 1 of the movies and the Special Edition's Take 2 say the same thing to me. Watch the way a blaster is fired...By everyone.
It will be called fan speculation, though it appears blasters are not handled or do not operate like our modern guns nor some of our antiquated firearms. Shatterpoint and some references to slugthrowers indicate a different kind of proficiency in Star Wars when it comes to blasters. It's not bad. We haven't pulled the trigger ourselves.
However, if you want a canon answer, not fan speculation or personal beliefs, then wait until an admin bans me and corrects this post.99.188.36.80 18:31, August 25, 2013 (UTC)