Forum:Form V: Shien/Djem So and Jedi Guardians

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My friend says that he read somewhere that most Jedi Guardians use Form V. I think it's fanon, but is he right about this? I think he's wrong, considering Obi-Wan Kenobi and Mace WIndu didn't. (read Clone Wars Adventures Vol. 1. if you don't believe me, in the story 'Heavy Metal Jedi', Mace tells Saesee Tiin that he prefers a rapier over a broadsword, and says he prefers speed to strength).--Jedi Kasra 23:05, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

• I have no doubt that a lot of Guardians used Form V, but unless he can source that, it sounds like fanon to me. Also, have Obi and Mace ever been canonically confirmed to be Jedi Guardians? DarthMRN 23:39, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
• Yes they have, DarthMRN! Read the Jedi Guardian article. Jedi Kasra 01:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
  • That doesn't help with the first part. No Forms are mentioned there. -Fnlayson 18:54, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
• I know, I was just saying that Obi and Mace are indeed confirmed Jedi Guardians. But my friend thinks that just because you're a Guardian you should already know Shien/Djem So. Of course that's ridiculous, that's like saying if you're a Consular you suck at lightsaber combat altogether.--Jedi Kasra 19:47, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
• While it is possible, the only confirmed Jedi users of Form V as their main style are Anakin Skywalker, Luke Skywalker and Khaat Qiyn. Almost certainly fanon. Meatbag47 20:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Don't forget Bane, and there are a few others. But don't anyone dare to add fanon to the saber form articles. Hunt you down, I will. ;-) Atarumaster88 ^{(Talk page)} 13:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
• I never said that because a jedi is a guardian they HAVE to know form five just that most Jedi Guardians use form five not all of them do.--The K.O. King
• Here's the thing - in the KOTOR era it's canon that there is a legitimate in-universe Guardian/Consular/Sentinel distinction, but by the time of the Prequels and onward, the distinction is solely one of game mechanics. There *aren't* specific "branches" of the Jedi Order that direct you on either Force-oriented or combat-oriented paths. ALL Jedi are supposed to be able to skillfully wield the Force and defend the weak and innocent; any particular flair a given Jedi has for one or the other is an individual idiosyncrasy, not something dictated by their enrollment in the Jedi Consular Class or the Jedi Guardian Class. So whatever lightsaber form you choose isn't dictated by your class, because your class is just a way of representing your personal areas of excellence, not some formal distinction. Thankfully, with the new Saga Edition rules, there is no longer this distinction - there is only one Jedi core class, with talent Guardian, Consular, and Sentinel talent trees that are NOT mutually exclusive to one another. jSarek 09:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)