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This has always been bugging me... the initial Death Star took around 20 years to build (about as old as Luke) but the second Death Star was built much more quickly (as long as the timespan between A New Hope and Return of the Jedi, which can't have been more than 3 years). So how in the world does that work? --TitanTalk to me, damn it! 02:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, it's quicker to build the second time. You know the drill, ya know? Gonk (Gonk!) 02:02, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well yea but still... even so they shouldn't have saved that much time.. I mean, that's more than 15 years quicker to build practically the same thing (I say "practically" because of the incompleteness of the Death Star II, which, considering the size of the thing, is still not enough to account for this irregularity). --TitanTalk to me, damn it! 02:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- The first time, there were delays. Technological and logistical hurdles that needed to be overcome. See DS-1 Orbital Battle Station#Construction. -LtNOWIS 02:08, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm well that answers it.. "actual effective work only took about two years" ..or something like that.. thanks. --TitanTalk to me, damn it! 02:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe the Senate refused to continue funding Palpatine's war and slowed down his efforts. At any rate, I imagine the delays will be covered in the soon-to-be-released book on the subject. Wildyoda 02:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- LtNowis is correct. There were delays and construction that had to be factored in during the construction of the first Death Star. Also, it would not be a stretch to say that the scene in ROTS with the Death Star under construction didn't occur right after the movie events. That's my interpretation. Hobbes15(Tiger Headquarters) (Leader of the Tigers) 02:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Additionally, the Emperor was using a light touch up until Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope because the Senate was still around, weak but not completely impotent. After it was disbanded, he could mobilize projects like the second Death Star with far fewer slowdowns. jSarek 02:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- LtNowis is correct. There were delays and construction that had to be factored in during the construction of the first Death Star. Also, it would not be a stretch to say that the scene in ROTS with the Death Star under construction didn't occur right after the movie events. That's my interpretation. Hobbes15(Tiger Headquarters) (Leader of the Tigers) 02:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe the Senate refused to continue funding Palpatine's war and slowed down his efforts. At any rate, I imagine the delays will be covered in the soon-to-be-released book on the subject. Wildyoda 02:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm well that answers it.. "actual effective work only took about two years" ..or something like that.. thanks. --TitanTalk to me, damn it! 02:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- The first time, there were delays. Technological and logistical hurdles that needed to be overcome. See DS-1 Orbital Battle Station#Construction. -LtNOWIS 02:08, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well yea but still... even so they shouldn't have saved that much time.. I mean, that's more than 15 years quicker to build practically the same thing (I say "practically" because of the incompleteness of the Death Star II, which, considering the size of the thing, is still not enough to account for this irregularity). --TitanTalk to me, damn it! 02:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- It's very likely the construction of the First death Star was not a priority - Palpatine didn't have a lot of opposition until Yavin. After then, with no Senate overseeing things and a more active threat with the Rebels, the Empire prioritised the construction of the second Death Star, creating an even bigger weapon in a short amount of time. QuentinGeorge 03:13, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- That's a good question. I had always assumed the DSI and DSII were the same size, but II was over 5 times bigger. I understand fixing the exhaust port flaw and any other improvements, but why make DSII SO much bigger? Bigger is better thing, I suppose.. -Fnlayson 01:53, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- This is Palatine we're talking about here. His plots have subplots after subplot. His schemes have mini-schemes woven in. His subterfuges are filled with more subterfuge. Who's to say that construction on the DSII began AFTER the first DS was destroyed? - JMAS 18:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- Um... the Death Star II was really big so the Millennium Falcon would take a while to fly into the core and hence buy the Imperials time if the Rebels happened to exploit the presence of rock-wielding primitives. It's just that TIE fighters are so darn SLOW that the plan didn't work and all that scrap metal went through a wormhole to keep the Endor moon from becoming uninhabitable. C3PO the Dragon Slayer
- I have noticed alot of people saying that after the Senate was disbanded, construction sped up. In case you didn't notice, the first Death Star was already complete by the time the Senate was disbanded. Jasca Ducato Sith Council Sith Campaign 20:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Uh, yeah. Then they built the second one and it didn't take so long. Though it's also worth noting that there's some evidence suggesting that the second Death Star was under construction, or at the very least in development, before the first was operational. Havac 21:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- When the second one was built, there was an advancement in Imperial Tecnology, Threrfore quicker--Nathan Solo 10:08, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- Um, Ducato, I wanna ask.. if the first Death Star was already complete by the time the Senate was disbanded, then why the h*ll did Palpatine wait so long to show it to the public. TitanSithspit! Talk to me! 21:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- It's not a matter of *if* - right there in Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope, Tarkin announces that the Senate is being disbanded *while aboard the completely operational Death Star*. The Emperor needed the Death Star to instill fear in the Empire's star systems before he could disband the Senate. jSarek 05:34, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- Uh, yeah. Then they built the second one and it didn't take so long. Though it's also worth noting that there's some evidence suggesting that the second Death Star was under construction, or at the very least in development, before the first was operational. Havac 21:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have noticed alot of people saying that after the Senate was disbanded, construction sped up. In case you didn't notice, the first Death Star was already complete by the time the Senate was disbanded. Jasca Ducato Sith Council Sith Campaign 20:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)