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The result of the debate was no consensus. jSarek 03:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps it would be a good idea to establish a base set of guidelines for finalizing a userbox vote. For example, a percentage of votes required for the vote to pass...that sort of thing.
Since userboxes are completely voluntary, I propose that a simple majority would allow the design to pass and become a template.
I don't think it should be more complicated than that, given that userboxes aren't an incredibly serious matter, anyway. --School of Thrawn 101 14:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'm with School of Thrawn but, should this be accepted, then "there was no consensus in the vote" would no longer be a excuse. Should a more detailed guideline be required, I suggest both a percentage of votes and a minimum amount of total votes required for the vote to pass. That is to say, not only a 67% of the votes, but a 67% plus a minimum of 12 votes. -- Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think this is such a pressing issue. First of all, let me correct your terminology: these are userbox proposals, not votes. We don't vote, we discuss whether or not a particular userbox should get approved and why. There's only one logical thing that can be done in the absence of consensus: relist it. Any particular figures (67%, 12 votes, etc.) are completely arbitrary, and if we accept something like that, people will take it as face value, as some Divine Numbers from Outer Space, set in stone forever.It's nothing but instruction creep. - Sikon 14:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- While I will allow that the page on userbox proposals doesn't necessarily use the word vote at any time, it does, however, use language that strongly implies that the entire ordeal of submitting a userbox proposal is decided in a fashion not unlike a vote. Sec 4 of "To use this page." states Once a majority has been reached, and two weeks have passed, the userbox will be created as a template for use in the community. In all honesty, when proposing a change in any circumstance and then relying on a majority opinion regarding implementation of that change as a determining factor, it is beyond inconceivable to deny a democratic process. --School of Thrawn 101 04:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- It is simply a filter for all the crap templates that pop up and we have to manage that somehow. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- While I will allow that the page on userbox proposals doesn't necessarily use the word vote at any time, it does, however, use language that strongly implies that the entire ordeal of submitting a userbox proposal is decided in a fashion not unlike a vote. Sec 4 of "To use this page." states Once a majority has been reached, and two weeks have passed, the userbox will be created as a template for use in the community. In all honesty, when proposing a change in any circumstance and then relying on a majority opinion regarding implementation of that change as a determining factor, it is beyond inconceivable to deny a democratic process. --School of Thrawn 101 04:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- I think we need to establish guidelines like this for all actual voting; I've never seen anything that explicitly defined what criteria would lead to an "Inconclusive" voting result, and, for that matter, what the next step is supposed to be once that's occurred. CooperTFN 19:51, 14 April 2007 (UTC)