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I have noticed that the Anzati are the Star Wars version of Vampires. Well the Vampire, Dracula can turn other people into vampires,for instance his brides. I have read the Graphic Novel, Darkness and it seems that Aayla Secura is turning into an Anzati. 1. Her teeth are more pointed than when she is normal, 2. Her eyes are turning white. The Anzati Dark Jedi Volfe Karkko says that that he will make Aayla his bride. Can Anzati turn other species into Anzati? What gives? Thanks, 216.77.199.85 16:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- No, the Anzati are a species, not a mutation of another species, like Vampires are of Humans. I would suspect that the changes in Aayla are simply artist interpretation of her slipping more and more to the dark side and more and more under Karkko influence. - JMAS 17:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- I read on wikipedia that vampires make other people vampires by siring them. In that process they bite the neck of the victims and feed the victims THEIR blood. Could the Anzati give their victims part of their brain? 209.215.59.20 21:44, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- I found that pointy teeth thing pretty strange too. Maybe she decided to file them down in male-style, and had a dental job done once she got back to Coruscant? XD
Seriously, though, I'm more curious about Karkko being able to increase his connection to the Force by draining other Force-sensitives. When midis live in the cells of a person, what good would it do to suck their brain matter? Maybe you could get a few, but not enough to make a difference. And if midi transfusion would increase Force sensitivity, then Grievous would have become Force sensitive following his blood-transfusion, which he didn't. Frankly, I find Darkness to be full of BS. DarthMRN 22:22, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- It's already established that Anzati drink "soup". This soup, their luck, has been retconned into having to do with the Force. Basically, it's no different from any of the other myriad forms of Force leeching that have been shown in canon, Palpatine and Nihilus being the biggest examples. Havac 23:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- AFAIK, nether palpatine nor Nihilus gained power from casting Force Drain. Nihilus leeched Force by being a wound in it. How does that compare to sucking brain matter? With the Nihilus drain, we can at least theorize that if the Force gives life and is created by it in return, then draining it from someone will cause you to gain their connection to the Force and parts of their life experience. But with sucked brain matter, there is no obvious connection to the Force. Not one that isn't pathetically stupid, at least. How did the most honored VIP's retcon this? DarthMRN 23:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Something just occured to me. Anzati soup-tasting is their way of gaining nourishment, right? Which means that Karkko gaining Quinlan's power by sucking his brain is comparable to Sidious eating Anakin to become the Chosen One. YUMMY!! How was this comparable to any other form of Force leeching, again...? DarthMRN 00:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- Palpatine did get more powerful, and so did Nihilus. Palpatine leeched off the population of Byss specifically to gain power. Nihilus required the infusion of power in order to maintain his existence, so his increases in power simply kept him at the same level. However, your emphasis on brain matter is beside the point. It has been established from the beginning that the Anzati believe themselves to feed on a substance they call "soup" which is made up of the victim's luck. This soup was detectable by the Anzati. As there clearly is no such physical thing as "soup" which can be sucked up, there's something else at play here. Later retcons have identified the luck which the Anzati detect in soup as related to the Force, just like pretty much all other supernatural, religious, or metaphysical phenomena in the galaxy. So brain matter does not give them Force power. Absorbing luck -- which has been identified as the Force -- gives them Force power, or so Karrko believes. Havac 02:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- Something just occured to me. Anzati soup-tasting is their way of gaining nourishment, right? Which means that Karkko gaining Quinlan's power by sucking his brain is comparable to Sidious eating Anakin to become the Chosen One. YUMMY!! How was this comparable to any other form of Force leeching, again...? DarthMRN 00:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- AFAIK, nether palpatine nor Nihilus gained power from casting Force Drain. Nihilus leeched Force by being a wound in it. How does that compare to sucking brain matter? With the Nihilus drain, we can at least theorize that if the Force gives life and is created by it in return, then draining it from someone will cause you to gain their connection to the Force and parts of their life experience. But with sucked brain matter, there is no obvious connection to the Force. Not one that isn't pathetically stupid, at least. How did the most honored VIP's retcon this? DarthMRN 23:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- I gotta disagree on Nihilus. If he did not grow more powerful with each leeching, he wouldn't have gotten as powerful as he was. He started out as something comparable to the Exile and the Wound assassins, remember.
On the soup: Why do people say brain matter, then? I can believe that the Anzati have some natural Force leech power wich is activated when they suck brain, but if they sucked no brain at all, Republic Scientists would surely have discovered it. And the belief that they suck brain had to come from somewhere, autopsies, for example.
You might wanna add some of this to the Anzati article, BTW. DarthMRN 10:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that we are getting off the original question. 216.78.64.165 22:06, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- True, but didn't you get your answers, though? There is nothing in canon to support Anzati turning other species to Anzati, and the inspiration is obvious, but not really of any concern to wookieepedia. So was there anything else you were wondering regarding the ol' brain suckers? DarthMRN 23:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)