@Anastasia Cousins Perfectly stated! She was raised in the Imperial orphanage, so she was spoon-fed that propaganda from birth. There was no way she could have turned out differently. And Cyril, too, only began to see the truth when it was already too late. I pity them both, even if they are the bad guys.
It seems the Sith suffer the most — and logically so.
But my heart aches for Cyril Karn.
His whole life, he tried to do the right thing, believed in law and order, and trusted the Empire. Yet to the Empire, he was just expendable (like Dedra, really). It’s tragic that he realized the truth too late, never even getting a chance to make things right. Such a heartbreaking story. 😔
That's great! You're welcome. 😊
That's true, an undeservedly underrated character. He's one of my favorites too.
Sometimes I get the feeling that no matter what idea pops into my head, there’s always someone on this site who’s already thought the same thing, lol.
Before The Bad Batch Season 2 came out, I thought: ‘They’ve already shown young Kanan and Hera — why not young Kallus? They could’ve crossed paths with Omega on Coruscant. He’d help her with some seemingly harmless task. Maybe they’d even take a liking to each other. Then they’d part ways, and Kallus would never realize he’d just aided the Rebels.’ 😄 It would’ve been fun and adorable.
But I guess it’s too far-fetched for the batchers to meet four Rebels characters.
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Oh, looks like I misread your post! The thought about such pairing wasn’t yours — it actually came from someone on Reddit. My apologies for the mix-up!
What’s the use of fighting the Grysks if he’s gonna become evil just like them? Would his own people even accept him if they knew he bombed civilians?Thrawn has already been exiled by his people and likely holds no hope of return. His only aim is to protect his world from destruction.
For a sunrise that he knows he'll never see.
Though I won’t argue — Filoni might have entirely different plans for him.
By the way, yes. What Thrawn did in the Rebels is not entirely in his character.
The scene with Kallus really stands out. The book Thrawn would have simply thrown him in a cell to await trial (or killed him), rather than dragging him to the bridge and making him watch.
In Rebels, he resembles the Thrawn from Legends much more. I think this has already been discussed a hundred times)
In Legends, he’s definitely a villain. But not in Canon, imo. If you read the Ascendancy trilogy, you’ll see him in a different light.
No, he’s not a villain — more of an antihero. Before going into exile, he vowed to do everything for the Chiss Ascendancy. And that’s exactly what he’s doing.
Honestly, I don’t see a reason for him to fight the New Republic. He only helped Palpatine so that the Empire would aid the chiss in the war against the Grysk. Now that Palpatine is dead, it would make sense for Thrawn to try negotiating with the New Republic, but he’s surrounded by Imperial officers and soldiers. They’d hardly support such a move.
So, even though he was portrayed as a typical villain in the Rebels and first season of Ahsoka, I don’t see him that way.
Well, the long-awaited Season 2 of Andor is finally here! It took me some time to process everything I saw in the first three episodes and form my thoughts. I think the start is brilliant! Maybe even better than in Season 1. So many realistic scenes.
Cassian’s capture by the rebels — I find it a very telling and realistic situation. Ordinary people (not soldiers, without special training) rarely keep their cool and sanity in critical moments. And these rebels are no exception. They lost their leader and don’t even know if she’s alive, they’re hungry and thirsty, and there are terrifying beasts in the forest. Their irrational behavior is a result of stress, and it feels very believable. Plus, this storyline shows that the emerging rebel movement mostly consists of untrained, desperate rabble.
Mon Mothma’s arc is the heaviest, in my opinion. Mon is deeply worried about her daughter, but the girl responds to her care with rudeness. It’s heartbreaking. They completely misunderstand each other, but at least Leida could have been gentler with her mom.
I feel sorry for Tay Kolma. You can’t blame him for wanting to back out after the deals with the rebels ruined his business and his wife left him. It seems he had no idea what he was getting into when he agreed to help Mon. And now it turns out he was just used and discarded like trash. Awful. And Mon is clearly wrecked with guilt over it, which makes her wild, drunken dancing at the end all the more painful to see.
I was glad to see Dedra and Syril officially together now. Against the backdrop of the wedding party at the Mothma estate, I even thought they were preparing to get married, but it turned out they were just getting ready for Syril’s mom’s formal introduction. How adorable! I think Eedy doesn’t need to worry — her "delicate boy" is now in the hands of another domineering woman. 😁
Clearly, Ghorman is the focus of the next story arc. I love that the attention to detail remains just as strong in Season 2. The Ghorman cloth promo was very good. From what I gather, they’re setting up a provocation to turn the galaxy’s citizens against Ghorman and justify an invasion. Also very realistic.
The attempted sexual assault on Bix—another harrowingly realistic scene. I feel so bad for poor Bix, it’s like she’s a magnet for unwanted attention. 😟 Thank goodness she managed to fight back.
I’m really gutted about Brasso. He was such a good man. At least he managed to protect his farmer friends.
I rate the first three episodes 10/10.
By the way, I really like this format — three episodes per story arc.
Well, it was a pretty good kids' show. I was even interested in watching it sometimes. During 7 episodes the kids weren't turned into superheroes, they remained just kids and I liked it very much. I was hoping it'd stay that way until the end, but unfortunately in the final episode they did put on shining armor and went to save everyone. And of course survived. Luckily Jod wasn't really a bad guy and the pirates were as good at shooting as the Imperial stormtroopers, otherwise the end of this heroic confrontation would have been tragic and quick.
Jod is by far the most interesting character in the show. I liked him. I think he'll find a way out of even this bad situation, or later escape from custody and get away by stealing one of the X-fighters.
By the way, I'm glad Wim didn't turn out to be force sensitive. I guess he wants to be an X-fighter pilot now. :)
I rate this show a solid 7/10.
^He violated the council's instruction not to interfere and instead of stopping Torbin from acting rashly, he joined him. This was certainly his mistake, so I disagree.
However, equally as much guilt goes to Mother Koril. If she hadn't encouraged Mae to act violently towards her sister, there'd have been no fire. Everybody screwed up.
The hilarious thing to me was Mae saying that Sol should answer for his crimes to the council while she herself killed two Jedi Masters, and there's Qimir, who slaughtered Sol's entire squad because he “just wanted to be himself” lol. Doesn't she really think at least one step ahead?
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@StillFlyingHalfAShip You just described how I felt about Sol's death. I also hoped that she'd let him go and say something like: “You've made a mistake, but I am your pupil and I learned from it. I won't be like you.” But it seems like Osha is too dumb for that.
^^Well, I guess I'm judging by myself. I wouldn't even be able to hit someone I love, even after such a terrible discovery.
@AdmiralZod1 As Vernestra had said, this guilt had been brewing inside of him for sixteen years. Unfortunately, Sol was too weak-willed to admit and accept his mistake, instead he made up excuses for himself. What's more, over the years he's convinced himself that he did the right thing (something the rest of the Jedi failed to do). It's so awful, but I still feel so sorry for him. The Jedi really need a full-time therapist in the temple.
What I don't understand is how Osha turned to the dark side so quickly and dared to kill Sol. I thought she loved him like a father, but obviously not. He loved her. Actually, Sol and Osha have a really weird or underdeveloped relationship. Everyone wonders why he suddenly became so attached to her as soon as he saw her? It's really weird and I was hoping for a reveal of this issue in the finale.
My opinion is that he observed her, how she interacted with her sister, how they trained in the coven, and realized that she was inclined to the light side of the force and also compassionate like himself. Many Jedi chose their padawan by observing the younglings in open classes. Most likely Sol too, watching her, felt that she should be his padawan.
Another thing that bugs me about this show is that I think it misrepresents the dark side of the force. I don't know much about it, but aren't Sith supposed to be vicious and ruthless bastards ready to kill anyone to get more powerful? Qimir's concern for Osha when she was in his helmet was a kind emotion. Did Sidious ever worry about Vader like that? No way. He tortured and abused him to make him angrier and stronger. But that's just my opinion. I want evil Sith, not a sweet boy who is only evil to certain people. Although maybe he's just pretending so Osha will start to trust him more? Maybe he'll show his true nature in season 2?
I rate the final 7/10 and the show 8/10.
I have a prediction too. Osha, while wearing Qimir's helmet, will connect with her sister's mind (as she did before in her dreams) and will see and hear all the same things she does. That's how she'll learn the truth about the Brendok incident.
Well, it all makes more sense now. Mae wasn't a crazy psycho, she acted impulsively and didn't think about the consequences of her actions, and that's normal for a kid her age. But she's grown up and still doesn't seem to have changed. Koril is understandable too, she doesn't like the Jedi and doesn't want to give her child to them. She had every right to do so, but she shouldn't have brought Mae into this.
Master Indara was absolutely right, there was no need to interfere. But I'm not sure what would have happened if Torbin hadn't disobeyed his master and rushed to get the twins. Possibly the witches, led by mother Koril, would have used their powers against the Jedi anyway. It all seemed to be a very unfortunate coincidence.
And the Sith had nothing to do with it...
Surprising that such a fire happened because of one dropped lamp. It's a miracle it didn't happen sooner. Fire safety's at an all-time low.
So Indara cut the witches off from controlling Kelnacca, and then they all passed out and burned alive? I wonder if Mother Koril survived?
Looking forward to the final episode. I rate this one 8/10.
By the way, it was funny that while all the Jedi were looking for a vergence, clever Kelnacca was snooping around with a metal detector. Looks like he was looking for scrap metal for his own use. xD
It hurts to see Sol in such despair. Seems that he had spent too much time with the younglings in the temple, became unused to real battles and wasn't ready for this crushing defeat. I'm worried about him, he's my favorite character in this show. And I now feel like he's not gonna make it. Sad.
The next episode will finally reveal the truth of what happened on Brandock, I guess. Very interesting to find out. I have a feeling Qimir will be connected to these events too.
Qimir and Osha were just hilarious to watch. She took absolutely everything he threw at her lol. All the scenes are made up of clichés, like something out of a low-grade women's novel. He's such a poor misunderstood guy in a white shirt, lost everything, knows how to teach her right. Pfft, jeez! Is she still as stupid and suggestible as she was as a kid? If she buys into this shit, I'll lose the last shred of sympathy I have for her.
May is really pissing me off. After the third episode, I suspected she was a psychopath obsessed with her sister. Now it's confirmed. She didn't want revenge, she just doesn't give a shit about anyone and everything except Osha. She changes her mind on the fly, without a second thought. I hate that kind of character.
Overall I have mixed feelings about the episode. Dialogues here are really weird. My rating is 6/10.
I bet Osha wakes up breathing heavily again in the next episode xD