The Force

Darth Sidious

Ok, let me explain where I’m coming from.

The Jedi way is to forsake all forms of personal desires and wishes in favour of following the guiding will of the force. ‘The Jedi Path’ specifically states ‘the force has a plan for the galaxy’, Qui Gon told young Anakin that the Jedi quite their mind to hear the will of the force, the novel of revenge of the sith has Obi Wan tell Anakin that wanting to hold onto someone/something is to prioritise selfish desires ahead of the will of the force, which he says is not the Jedi way. All in all, I think we can agree the Jedi way is to follow the will of the force- ie. destiny- and such a way of life is how the Jedi devote themselves to the light side of the force.

The Sith, as we all know, is the opposite. They do not serve the will of the force- they serve their own will, even to the detriment of others. When Starkiller was asked if he could sense the future, he responded ’I’ve never been a Jedi before’ which implies Sith can’t sense the future as Jedi can. This would make sense- to sense the future, future events must already be predestined, which in Star Wars is another way of saying the force has already planned what’s going to happen. Having the force, or for that matter anyone/thing else, decide what the future holds rather than deciding for oneself goes against everything the Sith stand for.

I should also point out that all of this seems to suggest that fatalism is the way of the light side, while free will and self determination is the way of the dark side, but I digress. The point is, surely any use of the force which changes someone’s fate, such as using the power of the force to save someone from a death that actions not powered by the force cannot prevent, is to change the fate pre destined for that person, thereby going against the will of the force, which is the way of the dark side.

I haven't put this on the concussion grenade talk page as I'm unsure as to whether this is even the case, and I'd rather not put out a question on there, especially with no source. (If this should be put on the talk page I'll move this onto the Legends concussion grenade talk page.) However, I think I've got a Mandela effect going on as I seem to remember concussion grenades could impair a Force User's ability to use the Force, but I can't remember the source for this. It might have been the KOTOR games? I think Force Scream's description in KOTOR 2 said it functioned like a concussion grenade and could disable force abilities, so maybe that's where I'm remembering it from? Either way, I'm posting this as I want to make sure I'm not having a Mandela effect, and also I'm intrigued to know if concussion grenades can impair a Force Users ability to use the Force? If so, I'd be doubly interested to hear the source.

I've been re-watching Supernatural over the past two months, which is basically about two brothers hunting the things that go bump in the night. Demons, vampires, werewolves, you name it. They even hunt a god every once in awhile.

They also deal with their fair share of ghosts, which brings me to my topic/idea that SPN may've sub-conciously inspired.

As we know, ALL living things are connected to the Force, and are said to "become one with the Force" upon death (specifically the Cosmic Force, according to the minor deep-dive I did while develping the power I'm getting ready to bring up). Sometimes a Jedi can even manifest themselves as a Force Ghost, or a part of a Force-user's spirit can hang around certain mystical locations.

One could make a comparison of Jedi to psychics- They can read emotions, use telekinesis, see the future, and sometimes see the past of an object. However, psychics are most commonly seen as those who can commune with the spirits of the dead.

Considering the Force's connection to just about everything, it's not unplausible for a version of that last skill to be a Force-skill. After all, we already have Force Ghosts, so why can't we have a Force-user who sees dead people?

After all this wordy stuff, I now present to you my concept:

Force Commune

A strange and possibly mystical variation of Force Sense and perhaps psychometry. The user can reach out through the Force into the Netherworld and communicate with the spirits of those departed. The better the user knew the departed, the easier it is to do, and it works if the departed was also Force-sensitive. The spirits will usually manifest only as voices, but sometimes they will have a metaphysical form of some sort, especially if the user is near a Force nexus (otherwise known as a vergence).

Force Dreamwalk

A more advanced sub-skill of Force Empathy, since dreams and emotions are fairly related to each other, one way or another. It could happen in the Force-user's sleep if they're strong enough with the Force, though in this it would usually be before any major training.

Essentially, the Force user could see a sleeping person's dreams, from their PoV, though it could seem and feel a lot like a vision.

Theoretically, could a Jedi/other Force user walk on walls and ceilings? Not just dash across them for a few seconds like Cal Kestis, but activity WALK on them? I mean, it's just a matter of will power if you think about.

To add to that, could they also (theoretically) just walk on and/or up air? Surely walking on air would be easier than levitating themselves, lol.

Of course, I'm sure teleportation is out of the question, lol, but the other two should be possible, yes?

Not destroying the Sith,right?

There are many interpretations on what the Force is but also on what it means to be on the Light or Dark side. I've heard people say that the force has a will and that part of its will is that the dark side is generally an ugly manipulation of the force.

However I believe if the force is an aware 'being' so to say, then the dark side is a purposeful part of it made specifically to be utilised by force sensitives alongside the light.

Further, I hold no belief in the opinion that the dark side was never meant to be used (as has been argued by some theory youtubers).

I'm not sure if I have put through my thoughts properly but what does everyone else think?

Do you think the Dark Side is meant to be used? Or do you think it's just an ugly part of the force tapped in through manipulation of the force itself?

It is well known that grievous is an infamous jedi killer and also that he has no ability to use the force.

How come these jedi didn’t just…you know…use the force? I feel like fighting grievous would be exceptionally simple, just don’t use your lightsaber except to defend yourself if the fight begins closely, but if the fight begins from a distance (like Kenobi v Grievous in ROTS), just use the force to break his grasp on his lightsabers or blind him or fly him around or something incredibly simple and effective?

Would a Sith Lord be affected by the Nameless as like other Force-sensitives would be? I mean, Nameless are literal terror machines, and Sith Lords love using fear and terror as a weapon of sorts. Would a Sith lord's connection to the Dark Side protect them from the terrifying affects of the Shri-ka-rai?