What are the difference of Jedi knights and Jedi masters?
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What are the difference of Jedi knights and Jedi masters?
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I was digging through Wookieepedia and stumbled upon Kanan Jarrus article. I scrolled down and saw that his master was Depa Billaba. I clicked on her and saw that her master was Mace Windu. I thought that Mace Windu was only 53 years old when he died, so he must really have been a good student if he had time to train a full jedi master, who after that, trained another jedi master (Kanan). That didn't bother me, but when I scrolled down on Yoda's article, I saw that he was in the jedi high council for a very long time (of course). I also saw something interesting about the Jedi high council in 40 BBY.
Guess who was there. Yes, Depa Billaba! She was a jedi master already in 40 BBY! Mace Windu was born in 72 BBY, which means that at the age of 32, he had completed both HIS training AND fully trained Depa Billaba!
Now, we don't have an exact birth year for Depa Billaba, but we know that she became a jedi master at a very young age. That ALSO means that Mace Windu trained Deåa Billaba at a very young age. That is not bothering at all, considering that for example Obi-Wan Kenobi was 25 years when he started to train Anakin. But since Windu just can't have been that (old) when he started to train Depa, he must have been just a jedi knight, and not a master yet, when he started to train her.
Now here's the real disturbing part. For example, if Depa was 5 when their started their training, Mace must have been around 13 years older. But that also means that Depa Billaba became a jedi master in or before she was 19 YEARS OLD! It just doesn't make any sense! That was waaay too young. Anakin, who was 9, was too old, I just can't find a reasonable age for Windu and Depa Billaba, that makes them both fit good in the timeline!
I have always found it rather odd that Jedi Knights are sometimes addressed by Younglings, other Jedi Knights/Masters’ Padawans, fellow Jedi Knights and even Jedi Masters as “Master _______” even though they do not hold the rank of Jedi Master. The only exception where I think it is fine for them to be addressed as “Master _______” is perhaps only by their Padawans, yet it just feels that this somehow makes the Jedi hierarchy a little more confusing. If I were a Youngling, how would I know whether the “Master” I am addressing is a Jedi Knight or a Jedi Master? Is there an in-universe explanation for this? I can’t find it on Wookieepedia.
What were the conditions for being awarded the rank of Jedi Master? I used to think it was after your first apprentice graduated, but after rewatching ROTS I'm not so sure. Why did Anakin think that he could possibly attain that rank without having a graduated apprentice?
Was there more than one way to reach it?
Could Jedi be chosen be Senators of their planets or systems, or even the Supreme Chancellor?
So, I've been watching TCWS & Rebels again. And it reminded me of how sad Ahsoka's history with Anakin truly is. I always thought out of all the people Ani knew and cared for Obi-Wan took it the roughest/hardest. But I totally feel like that isn't the case. But I wanna know what you all think as well!
Who do you think took Anakin's turn to the Dark Side the hardest?
I personally feel like Ahsoka took it harder, but handled her emotions better, while Obi-Wan let his sadness consume him in a way!
Regardless of your opinion on the matter, we can all agree that this shit still saddddd😪
Personally, I think Anakin does earn the rank of master. I say he did because he meet all the requirements like training an apprentice and mastering a lightsaber style (Form V or Djem So in Anakin's case). Even as a Jedi, Anakin also mastered several lightsaber forms like Form IV/Ataru which Anakin modified the form to overcome its weakness of being outnumbered and blaster bolts.
What this shows us, is that Anakin has mastered lightsaber combat to the point where he not only understands multiple styles but also he can teach, not only the original styles but his own modifications of them. This gives him some reasoning for why he should be considered a Master, namely that he's teaching new techniques and modifying them, something generally considered to be the actions of a Master, not a Knight, rather than the petulant "I'm the chosen one" that seemed to be his only basis for such an action in the prequel trilogy. The use of Ataru in particular, and the emphasis on deflecting blasters, is also quite brilliant.
The apprentice might be debatable because Ashoka quit the Jedi Order but this was the Council's fault and they practically cheated Anakin from the rank of master. Sure they said Anakin was too arrogant to be on the Council but this is a common trait among the Jedi. The difference is that Anakin is capable of keeping his arrogance in check while the High Council members like Mace Windu are not.
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So when I read about Qui-Gon in the wiki it said he was a Jedi Master when I looked at the Canon version. Thinking that Legends was different I looked at it. It was the exact same thing though.
I was confused because in the Phantom Menace I remember a line similar to this. "If you listened to the council more, you would be on the council." This happened when Obi-Wan Talked to him about disobeying the council.
I thought that maybe he was appointed to the council for discovering the chosen one or something but then I realized he died before he got back. So how was he on the Jedi Council?
Thanks