Have you guys read one of the comics., I forgot the name but Vader literally just pushed him off the cliff, then in star wars rebels kallus literally just kicks him off the pole so then he falls to his death, also the seperatists had droids not real people, they were expendable

I think the separatists. General Grievous treats his B1s like trash.

Sepes Grievous sits and smashes there heads off

^ exactly my point

The First Order kidnapped toddlers and babies and took them from worlds they'd ravaged for resources, then they then brainwashed and gaslit the kids every moment of their lives, even while they were sleeping via subliminal propaganda. The older adult officers had already gotten their fill of indoctrination from the Empire by the time the ventured into the Unknown Regions to become the First Order, but their soldiers were almost entirely kids and young adults who had been twisted into tireless devotion. This was inspired by how the clones were raised, but the Republic's army, for better or worse, was literally bred to love fighting and honor dying for the cause. They weren't taken from families, and in fact made their own within their units. Touching stuff.

I'd say with predominantly droids fighting for them, the Separatists probably had little respect for their soldiers. I would classify this is as a really terrible situation, but nothing compared to kidnapping kids.

First Order 1000% for abuse of soldiers. Abuse of PRISONERS? Empire all day long, holy heck.

Ok it may be about the First Order and why the republic we are talking about is the one before the Clone Wars not after that the empire

@Darth Cumulonimbus given these details, what do you think?

More concisely my ranking is

1. First Order for kidnapping and brainwashing kids to be unthinking, unwavering killers

2. Galactic Republic for using, if not technically requesting, genetically engineering intelligent organic beings simply to fight and die.

3. Empire for brutal indoctrination of youths, strong-arming in general, and sentencing for any dissenters, including soldiers who realized how they'd been lied to.

4. Separatists for using almost exclusively droids, the majority of which appeared to possess an identical, simple mind. They were definitely the most disposable of all these soldiers, and many seemed very scared, which is sad.

@SpicetimeContinuum

While I think none of these factions are innocent, the Separatists were far and away the worst offenders. The Separatist Officers did not even recognize the fact that their droids were sentient on the same level as humans, and often treated them as being even lower than machines. Just how many times did General Grievous kill a droid just because it happened to be in his way while he was angry? And thanks to their built-in programming, droids are literally compelled to follow their orders, even if they would rather do anything else.

@Darth Cumulonimbus Fair! It wasn't during the Clone Wars anymore, but there are B1s that Cal Kestis takes down that are clearly dreaming of a life away from combat. It's really tragic, but used ironically as always.

Honestly the empire like yeah the first order because of indoctrination and propaganda or the seps but honestly, the Galactic empire just did it to the extreme